Le Fishe Thread Doffy vs Fujitora

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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Zen this is so stupid. In no universe does Vergo have more AP than BM. Saying "lol you're just bias" doesn't make it true. Give me actual evidence.

WB looked better after fighting Roger than he did in one counter with Squadro. What kind of logic is that? Are we gonna ignore the fact that Vergo had Law's heart? Are we also gonna ignore the fact that Smoker was already beaten down? What is this "folded in a single swing" nonsense?

The leg crack doesn't mean a thing when other characters like Judge almost did the exact same thing to Sanji. Sanji even admitted that P1's swipe would've been bad without the RS. On panel, Vergo is nothing special. I'm certainty not ignoring obvious facts to claim he hits harder than BM lol. Unless you can prove Vergo without haki can 2 shot Queen or overpower Luffy's haki guard with a single strike? Or that his attacks can clash with Base Kaido? Or that Vergo's attacks can make Onigashima shake? Give me something at least.
I'm not saying he has better AP than Big Mom overall, she has a lot more to her arsenal than just armament coated punches with her back on the ground. I'm saying Oda had went out of his way to consistently showcase how hard he hits, something he wasn't even willing to do for Big Mom's punches, not to the same extent. It speaks volumes for how heavy Vergo's blows are.

It's the same logic with Sanji's leg cracking, Oda went above and beyond to show how abnormal Vergo's attack power is. There was no need to go that far. This was without hardening or his bamboo stick, let alone his strongest attack. Through this you can get a good idea of just how strong Oni Take must have been, there's a reason it folded Smoker. The bias is the fact you can't get over the fact that Oda did indeed do all this for Doflamingo's underling. If an Admiral or Yonkou pulled off these feats you wouldn't blink.

We know Sanji fought Judge and Judge could barely put a scratch on Sanji with a point blank kick to the face. Let alone crack his leg bones. So we know the feat is abnormal. We know Vergo completely outdoes someone like Judge in AP, it's not even close.
 
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Bro still thinks PH Law=Wano Law:suresure:

And Vergo never folded Smoker.And even if,PH Smoker is fodder on a grand scale

Its like claiming Luffy oneshotted Alvida,someone who oneshotted her underlings hence Alvida and Chapter 1 Luffy had insane AP
 
I'm not saying he has better AP than Big Mom, she has a lot more to her arsenal than just armament coated punches with her back on the ground. I'm saying Oda had went out of his way to consistently showcase how hard he hits, something he wasn't even willing to do for Big Mom's punches, not to the same extent. It speaks volumes for how heavy Vergo's blows are.

It's the same logic with Sanji's leg cracking, Oda went above and beyond to show how abnormal Vergo's attack power is. There was no need to go that far. This was without hardening or his bamboo stick, let alone his strongest attack. Through this you can get a good idea of just how strong Oni Take must have been, there's a reason it folded Smoker. The bias is the fact you can't get over the fact that Oda did indeed do all this for Doflamingo's underling. If an Admiral or Yonkou pulled off these feats you wouldn't blink.
Oni Take certainly makes Kizaru's AP look like trash, we can agree on that.


 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
Bro still thinks PH Law=Wano Law:suresure:

And Vergo never folded Smoker.And even if,PH Smoker is fodder on a grand scale

Its like claiming Luffy oneshotted Alvida,someone who oneshotted her underlings hence Alvida and Chapter 1 Luffy had insane AP
Bro Vergo sama was toying with Smoker and that occurred before full body armament.

Critical Mindset's legend still lives among us and Vergo has become a brand for his style and might.
 
Yes I already had this discussion with Shiroryu. Those attacks Kizaru dished out against the fodderhats, don't even come close to Oni Take.
Comparing a nameless Kizaru kick against a tank like Franky vs Vergo (a fighter with some YC lvl stats)' strongest move

Wtf is wrong with people
:milaugh:.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Comparing a nameless Kizaru kick vs Vergo (a fighter with some YC lvl stats)' strongest move

Wtf is wrong with people
:milaugh:.
These people think just being an Admiral or Yonkou means you can ignore objectively stronger attacks from inferior characters. Especially one that is an underling to a Warlord. It doesn't sit well with them.
 
These people think just being an Admiral or Yonkou means you can ignore objectively stronger attacks from inferior characters. Especially one that is an underling to a Warlord. It doesn't sit well with them.
Many rookies can briefly mimic a top tier stat

Look at Zoro
 
Take in it's 2025 and we thought we would have seen countless VAs supplant Vergo, 10+ years later after PH and Vergo mogs any VA to exist. An anomaly through and through.
We need Onigumo to come with whoever Admiral gets sent to Elbaf

Vergo can't be the only GOATed VA
 
Take in it's 2025 and we thought we would have seen countless VA's supplant Vergo, 10+ years later after PH and Vergo mogs any VA to exist. An anomaly through and through.
Remember when they were trying to say these Bonney victims were stronger than Vergo?


Oda literally had Pre PH Law play a huge role in a battle vs a legend and dudes still downplay vergo LMAO
 
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