Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1155 Spoilers Discussion

[Salah WG]

Mihawk was called "Storm" (Chapter Title) in his Manga Debut,
Give up on finding a Stronger Character.

 

[Jailer]

Dragon, Shanks, Imu, Luffy are all Blackbeard victims

 

[Monkey D Theories]

No top tier is low diffing or mid diffing the other one. Unless your name is Imu or Nika/Joyboy.

This just isn’t true

there’s a reason you have characters split up between 3 billion vs 4 billion vs 5 billion

obviously bounty isn't conclusive

but

the admirals were afraid of Shanks and Kaido

And any 5 bil could annihilate a yonko crew.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I don't think it matters, the idea that Rocks found out about Imu and went on to become a pirate for years is kind of silly IMO

Also, this opens a possibility that many many people can know about Imu. For example,
Rocks-Big Mom-Flampe
Rocks-Kaido-Ulti

I doubt they were all telling eachother about Imu, but it's entirely possible

I mean to that degree, so does Wapol and Sabo lol, I dont think physically letting someone go, especially someone as powerful as Xebec inherently means Imu is weak at all though lol.

Look at what he's doing to the giants in a possessed body.

 

[Jailer]

Mihawk was called "Storm" (Chapter Title) in his Manga Debut,
Give up on finding a Stronger Character.

Wow so convincing I am sold thanks

 

[L57]

It's hard to tell what Oda intends to say here. Swordskill = power. Evident by Zoro amping his skill with CoC. And now Xebec's swordsmanship is brought up. Now how does Shanks fight? He doesn't have a fruit, he only uses his sword and Haki, so same thing Zoro does. Cutting or not. He had Kamusari when he fought Mihawk, so shockwaves are in the equation.

But then again, as @ZenZu pointed out, why not just saying "with a power surpassing emperor Shanks".

You could argue, Oda does it on purpose. He wants the ambiguity.

He has no point
If u have better swordsmanship ur stronger simple as that
Swordsmanship as a whole includes haki and devilfruits

 

[ConquistadoR]

Welcome back bro are you here to join the feast

Nah, im enjoying my retirement very much to come back to discussing mangas.

 

[Shiroyru]

Wow so convincing I am sold thanks

Most logical and convincing Salah post

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Harald stomps Oden

That means he stomps everyone in Kaido's top 5 since they're portrayed around the same level.

 

[Malick the last Light]

Plus Xebec is not a Swordsman, he's a '' Unique '' Swordsman.

Whatever helps you sleep at night Root.

 

[Nadel]

The fact xebec is hyped AS A SWORDSMAN is the most unreal debate ending W of all time

 

[Zaretball]

People don't take Mihawk and his title seriously because the author himself doesn't either. The difference in treatment between Shanks/old legends and Mihawk is evident.

 

[MarineHQ]

Nah, im enjoying my retirement very much to come back to discussing mangas.

I bet your life drastically improved after dropping this weebo dirt.

 

[soupongo]

Vista, go stop the storm!

 

[Paperchampion23]

Dragon’s definition “soon” ranges anywhere from just a few minutes to a few decades from now

Him and Akainu, kings of the desk game lol

In that case then I do hope Imu commands the GKs back to Elbaf but as a fuller force, unless of course they are just completely reserved for the RAs when the time comes

 

[NikaInParis]

Nah, im enjoying my retirement very much to come back to discussing mangas.

Do you think Ryoumen D Xebec can do better in the Inhuman Makyou Shunjuku Showdown than his cousin Sukuna

 

[Shiroyru]

@Roo
Fourth Strongest, he says.

Maybe he means only alive Supernova? Even then, Bonney > Drake

1. Luffy
2. Law
3. Zoro
4. Bonney
5. Drake
6. Urouge
7. Bege
8. Apoo
9. Hawkins

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Stop it, this isn't about killing Luffy, don't act dumb. Akainu couldn't kill Luffy either, it's the difference in how Oda presented Mihawk during the war of the best. He didn't present him like some Xebec lvl guy.

Vista attacked Akainu as well if I remember correctly

Vista! Go handle our captain’s captain!

Plot. Lord of the coast says hi.

 

[Malick the last Light]

it's so true though, zoro wants to be the greatest swordsman of all time, and xebec in history was a swordsman so it's only natural he would have to surpass xebec's swordsmanship

Luffy will become the greatest Pirate alive, with the greatest shipwright Franky, the greatest Cook Sanji, the greatest Navigator Nami and the best Doctor in Chopper but yeah, Zoro just gonna be the what? The 5th greatest swordsman of all time? Cause that makes fucking sense...

The logic of some people on here will neevr fail to astound me I swear.

 

[HeroesNZ]

Then why not just call him weaker? "

He did, when he called Mihawk the World's Strongest Swordsman in the same sentence lmfao 🤣. Bro this manga is aimed at teenagers it's not supposed to be that complicated lool

I don't see any flaws in my line of reasoning yet. You can be the weaker swordsman but not weaker overall depending on how you can make up for it like with my Jozu example.

The flaw is that this does not make sense. Shanks is a swordsman, Mihawk is a swordsman. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman.

Swordsmanship is the only fighting style Shanks has. For example, you can say Mike Tyson is stronger than Mayweather as a boxer but Mayweather is more skilled. In this case, Mihawk is both stronger and more skilled. You could say Mayweather is stronger than McGregor as a boxer but that doesn't make him stronger overall, and that works because McGregor has another fighting style.

Shanks does not have another fighting style. He is a swordsman, end of. He is strongest when using swordsmanship. If Mihawk is both more skilled and stronger and a swordsman, then he is stronger overall, because if Shanks narratively cannot defeat Mihawk using his sword, then he's sure as shit not gonna magically get stronger if he throws his sword away and starts kickboxing lmfaooo 😂. He'll get shitstomped without his sword and loses to Mihawk with his sword, as does every other swordsman alive.

The agenda is over; Xebec proves that cutting is not the be-all end-all to swordsmanship. You can be renowned as an exceptional swordsman even when using blunt shockwaves etc... These non-cutting abilities also form a part of swordsmanship. It proves that Shanks is included in Mihawk's title and so would Xebec and Roger if they were alive.