Character Discussion Burgess and his Riki Riki (Strong ass fruit)

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#21
Disagree. Sure he gets mugged by elemental yonko commanders but he for sure beats the strong men of yonko crews like Queen, Jinbei Jozu etc. His fruit doesn't have upper limits and he is already a competent combatant in terms of speed and haki and technique. The fruit for sure places him as a high tier.
"elemental" YC lmfao Sabo had just gained his fruit.

what feats has Burgess shown that he can compete with Y1/2

He literally got negged by a YC1/2.

what speed feats what haki feats what technique?

"high tier" lower end if even that
 
#23
It's probably the upgraded version of Urouge's fruit (without the drawback of converting damage into strength).
Pretty basic stuff but it's all up to the execution.
Maybe getting closer to death with urouges df could potentially give a greater amp in strength than burgess's.

I wonder if Blackbeard chose to consume urouge's fruit, and then marcos, he could gain strength from taking damage then simultaneously heal in a burst to gain strength without sustaining the damage.

Or if he chose to absorb an attack with the yami yami no mi, potentially the amplified pain he feels could be used to source urouge's df instead of taking literal heavy damage to his body. In this case he can also get off scott free, at least physically if not mentally.

So he could choose when to absorb or not absorb something and still reap the rewards of strength.

I guess he could have also just ate burgess and urouges df's. That would go crazy, because he could use burgess df, take damage and have that strength amplified. It would probably suit a brawler better anyway like king elizabello.
 
#25
"elemental" YC lmfao Sabo had just gained his fruit.

what feats has Burgess shown that he can compete with Y1/2

He literally got negged by a YC1/2.

what speed feats what haki feats what technique?

"high tier" lower end if even that
Rewatch the coloseum block fights. He was showing shock wave elbow attacks plus haki. He was jumping from the hill to the lower levels. So yea he was already a decently powerful fighter without the fruit. He would mug the likes of Jack Queen Jinbei etc with the increased strength
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#26
Rewatch the coloseum block fights. He was showing shock wave elbow attacks plus haki. He was jumping from the hill to the lower levels. So yea he was already a decently powerful fighter without the fruit. He would mug the likes of Jack Queen Jinbei etc with the increased strength
lol no it took the entirety of the minks in Sulong to actually take down Jack, even then he wasnt even fully down. not even a warship housed with sengoku, tsuru and ishho landed any significant damage to jack and neither did Zunisha....

jack is a physical monster

lol so you think current burgess is stronger than Ace? jimbie just made WsW was comparable to Lucci look like light work, no burgess isnt beating jinbei

unless you believe Burgess is YC1 caliber he isnt touching any of these 3

if you want to bring up colosseum feats, chinjoa and sal body burgess there
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#27
He wasn't neg diffed by Sabo. He stood his ground for more than 10 minutes against Sabo with the mera mera no mi and Sabo himself acknowledged his strength

lol you mean when sabo was just getting used to his new powers? toying with burgess holding him off for luffy to fight and just cause he "thinks" doesnt mean he did lol this was also after he was fighting with Issho.... additionally Sabo had already negged burgess shockwave w/ armor attacks with haki alone... & wasnt their fight like a minute or less and Burgess was crawling on the ground.... lmfao try again:

literally everyone agrees:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ironqp https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ironqp https://www.fanverse.org/threads/di...of-a-character-that-is-jesus-burgess.1041154/


if not for plot Burgess gets his skull crushed by Sabos barehands no haki lmfao.
 
#29
lol you mean when sabo was just getting used to his new powers? toying with burgess holding him off for luffy to fight and just cause he "thinks" doesnt mean he did lol this was also after he was fighting with Issho.... additionally Sabo had already negged burgess shockwave w/ armor attacks with haki alone... & wasnt their fight like a minute or less and Burgess was crawling on the ground.... lmfao try again:

literally everyone agrees:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ironqp https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ironqp https://www.fanverse.org/threads/di...of-a-character-that-is-jesus-burgess.1041154/


if not for plot Burgess gets his skull crushed by Sabos barehands no haki lmfao.
In the Colosseum he destroyed his armor, nothing crazy. It is remarkable DFless Burgess managed to stand his ground against the second in command of the revolutionary army.

About their second clash, it is true he was still getting used to the mera mera no mi, still I would say he was certainly stronger and more lethal than before. What Burgess achieved is truly exceptional.

Their fight started a few moments after Luffy told Gatz he would have needed 10 minutes to recover his haki, and ended a bit after Luffy defeated Doflamingo. 10+ minutes seems like a fair guess. I don't think he stood there watching Doflamingo playing with Violet or civilians getting killed just to toy with Burgess. His hands were full :kayneshrug:
 
#30
Burgess has been caught with his pants down before, yes. That's sort of a common theme with big guys like Burgess or Juggernaut. They tend to always be begging for a fight despite that.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#31
In the Colosseum he destroyed his armor, nothing crazy. It is remarkable DFless Burgess managed to stand his ground against the second in command of the revolutionary army.
stand his ground, he was crawling on the floor & wouldve had his skull crushed by Sabos barehand with no haki if it werent for plot...

Sabo did not take him serious in the slightest
bout their second clash, it is true he was still getting used to the mera mera no mi, still I would say he was certainly stronger and more lethal than before. What Burgess achieved is truly exceptional.

Their fight started a few moments after Luffy told Gatz he would have needed 10 minutes to recover his haki, and ended a bit after Luffy defeated Doflamingo. 10+ minutes seems like a fair guess. I don't think he stood there watching Doflamingo playing with Violet or civilians getting killed just to toy with Burgess. His hands were full :kayneshrug:
lol ehh what exactly did Burgess achieve nearly dying to Sabo, i dont even think he landed a single blow, mind you he was shown using CoA so no excuse there...

so for context lol the literal chapter that Sabo "fights" Burgess is called 4 minutes before meanwhile the fight starts at 3minutes til Birdcage closes LMFAO so good try... & Sabo sends Burgess flying across DR hhahaha after in which Burgess is off paneled in less than 3minutes and is casually walking away which i honestly doubt Sabo did any additional hits given he only chased him to where he landed & then he got fire gunned and lost lol 2 hits thats 2 hits that sabo used that neg diffed Burgess.

try again... the anime doesnt even do you any justice just adds nonsens thats not apart of the actual fight

try again
 
#32
stand his ground, he was crawling on the floor & wouldve had his skull crushed by Sabos barehand with no haki if it werent for plot...

Sabo did not take him serious in the slightest

lol ehh what exactly did Burgess achieve nearly dying to Sabo, i dont even think he landed a single blow, mind you he was shown using CoA so no excuse there...

so for context lol the literal chapter that Sabo "fights" Burgess is called 4 minutes before meanwhile the fight starts at 3minutes til Birdcage closes LMFAO so good try... & Sabo sends Burgess flying across DR hhahaha after in which Burgess is off paneled in less than 3minutes and is casually walking away which i honestly doubt Sabo did any additional hits given he only chased him to where he landed & then he got fire gunned and lost lol 2 hits thats 2 hits that sabo used that neg diffed Burgess.

try again... the anime doesnt even do you any justice just adds nonsens thats not apart of the actual fight

try again
Did anyone ever tell you that you're too aggressive?
 
#34
the literal chapter that Sabo "fights" Burgess is called 4 minutes before meanwhile the fight starts at 3minutes til Birdcage closes
That happens at the end of the chapter and they literally stopped the birdcage the following chapter or so. Most of Burgess vs Sabo is off panel, look at how Sabo goes after him:kayneshrug:

 
#37
Normally it should be one of the strongest fruits. Multiplying your physical strength while keeping the same body weight is a cheat code. It's how Luffy's G2 doping effect works aswell.

Besides unmatched lifting strength it should also result into much, much higher physical attack power and far far greater movement speed.
It's like the effects of Byrnndi World's DF in a sense, that movie antagonist.

It would be an incredibly powerful fruit on any martial artist or weapon user for sure
 
#38
My gut feeling is that it’s a fruit that Oda has planned for him since the beginning, but as the series has went on and the scale has gotten bigger and bigger it’s going to look a bit meh compared to what other characters can do naturally. It might still have an impressive non powerscaling scene though (like he picks up the Noah entirely by himself or something).
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#39
That happens at the end of the chapter and they literally stopped the birdcage the following chapter or so. Most of Burgess vs Sabo is off panel, look at how Sabo goes after him:kayneshrug:

quite certain i said all of that..... so 3 minutes of a fight yet that is impressive for Burgess?

lol thats embarrassing even Bellamy lasted that long against Luffy... what even is your point here?

& love how you ignored the rest of the post..
 
#40
quite certain i said all of that..... so 3 minutes of a fight yet that is impressive for Burgess?

lol thats embarrassing even Bellamy lasted that long against Luffy... what even is your point here?

& love how you ignored the rest of the post..
There wasn't much to add, in the Colosseum he just destroyed his armor piece. Burgess was totally fine after their first clash. The anime isn't canon so it shouldn't make any difference

The scenario you are depicting doesn't seem likely. Here is the timeline of events:

1- Sabo saves Luffy from Burgess, a little less than 10 minutes are left before Luffy gains his haki back

2- Sabo says he won't be able to help him with Doflamingo and starts fighting with Burgess. Burgess is sent flying and Sabo chases after him.

3- Doflamingo starts killing every gladiator, Zoro and the others start pushing the birdcage.

4- Chapter 787 ends, Luffy needs 4 more minutes

5- Zoro stops the birdcage and Violet confronts Doflamingo

6- Luffy is back and his fight with Doflamingo continues

7- Doflamingo is defeated, the birdcage disappears and Sabo looks relieved. Then Burgess tries to provoke Sabo to steal his fruit
Point 3 covers a much longer time span than you are making it seems. And even if it didn't, the fight lasted at the very least 4 minutes + the finale of the Doffy vs Luffy fight. That's a lot of time in the OP world, people go down in a single hit when things gets serious. Burgess is incredibly sturdy and managed to hold his own against a YC1+ character.

I refuse to consider the idea Sabo stood there doing nothing while civilians were in mortal danger, Sabo was in a hurry :goyea:


Btw it seems a good moment to mention the existence of our beautiful Burgess FC:blush:
 
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