Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

The worst part about ICE is knowing they work for known human traffickers

ICE has been sending people to countries they did not come from.

How many of the kids that ICE kidnapped off the streets got sold into sex slavery?

We can only guess at the moment.

Yea it's pretty much trafficking and feeding the for profit prison system
Deportation means kicking peopleout of the country. To built entire prison complexes for the 'deported' is the opposite of deportation
This shit is basically an excuse to strips humans of all rights and get rid of dissidents . Once this new normal is established anyone even us born residents may be ''deported''.

 

[RyoQ]

Illogiko is back..

 

[Mathias]

Anti-left sentiment gonna skyrocket again....was making good progress...

Do you have peer reviewed paper on the good progress of « leftism » or « decrease of anti leftism » in this thread or forum ? I’d be curious to see your sources and analyse their methodology

 

[Logiko]

This is even better than Finalbeta coming back, can’t wait for this thread to get immeasurably more toxic

I don't think I need to be on the attack anymore here. The material conditions of the world, as I expected, radicalized this thread on its own.

I want to quote a few post I made:




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Date : November 9 2024
Context: Trump's election

[...] What Trump is about to unleash, you guyz are not ready for it [...]

Result : Was asked if I needed a doctor

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Date : November 9 2024
Context: Trump's election

Here is a check list for you:

You can add a few more boxes if you want to sea if your country is on the fascist scale:

- Starts to glorify the past to a weird degree
- Starts to call scientists woke traitors
- Advocate for the removal of the constitution on the basis of "the elites are using it to restrain the people"
- Starts to arrests journalist and opposition member but also scientists.
- Creates a pole of science "without woke elites"
- Completely reforms the government agencies (CIA, FBI etc.)
- Starts to wage a war on the basis of the security of the united state and the united people
- Reforms the entertainment industry, prevent leftists media to appear for the good of the people
- Pushes the cult of the hero to the population through the medias and through propaganda
- Start to deport people massively
- Creates camp for people in "waiting" for deportations
- Arrests anyone questionning the methods of the governement

Result : Was told I was making Trump and Elon look like monsters for no reasons.

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Date : November 9 2024
Context: Trump's election

And American have one of the highest % of climatosceptical, it doesn't mean that they are right.

You are in denial.

But props to you to be able to face your daughter while defending Trump and Musk. I wouldn't be able to do that personnaly.

Result : Trashed by the moderation for saying this to Zemmi who voted for Trump

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Date : November 9 2024
Context: Trump's election

I never attacked her. Go check what I said.

The correlation is clear.

People who have relatives that will have their lives threatenned by the arrival of power of Trump to power, and endorsing him or Musk who literally denied the existence of his own daughter because of her gender, are simply blind to the threat they poses and became by defaut the opposite if what I would call an ally.

The correlation is clear as crystal for those who understand the danger that is coming.. not only in the US, but around the entire world.

Trump is but the first step of something even more dramatic. We MUST be prepared. I'm not being dramatic here. I have the datas, I have the knowledge, I have the documents to tell you.

The left (not democrates, not liberals, the LEFT) are those people at the moment, I'm those people and the comet is Eternal Fascism.

It's COMING. And America may already be lost.

Result : Defending myself. I was told I was fear mongering


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Date : January 10th 2025
Context: Trump's arrival to power

The level of naivety in front of the danger of fascism legit scares me sometimes.

People do not realize how it begins and think this is just a glitch in the system and the result of hardcore fascists ideas being pushed by a very bad man. But they do not realize that the reason why it's so easy to install is precisely because people think that "politicians are not that extrem and in the end quite moderate".. without having one clue of the real danger that lies in things they do not even look at:

I'm talking here about the attacks on institutions. The attack that most people are underestimating because they are not really thinking about what could happen if the institutions were to fall one by one.

"Mass deportations would crash the economy" yes. But not if you create a war or if you destroy many public services to finance it.

Also.. Because people associate fascism with a specific esthetic, they often do not realize how easy it can be for a society to fall into it.

Fascism is not something that happens over night:

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People who create fascist societies are not some evil monsters that know what they are doing. They are humans who push harmfull politics that make people cheer for them with the intention of doing actual good !

Fascism is not a glitch, it's the result of all the systems of oppression already existing (capitalism, systemic racism patriarchy, ableism etc.) syncing up and binding together over time !

If you think Trump is moderate and not that bad without realizing the level of attacks that he is about to inflict on the US institutions...

You are ready for fascism.

Result : Post ignored

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SO Dear US Citizens.....

How do you do ?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

So “America First” really means “America is the first country we’re going to run into the ground with our rampant fascism and fuck you if you don’t like it,” what a monster…I really, REALLY hope the next guy doesn’t miss

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He’s deploying American soldiers on American soil to round up and intimidate American citizens, there has never been a bigger cunt in history and I’m including Hitler in that

 

[Logiko]

Do you have peer reviewed paper on the good progress of « leftism » or « decrease of anti leftism » in this thread or forum ? I’d be curious to see your sources and analyse their methodology

No need. My wokeness is now on another level

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I saw a few things that made me itch. Couldn't just stand by anymore.



Hi Van, I'm fine, thank you

Ain’t no way I revived logiko

 

[Jew D. Boy]

As I’ve said before, you gotta give Republicans one iota of credit…they saw a firebrand iconoclast energize the fringiest parts of their base and embraced him wholeheartedly, then they rode him all the way to two presidential terms; Democrats see progressive candidates garner massive support and decide to alienate everyone involved. Can’t shoot yourself in the foot and blame Bernie Sanders for the blood, you know??

 

[Midnight Delight]

So “America First” really means “America is the first country we’re going to run into the ground with our rampant fascism and fuck you if you don’t like it,” what a monster…I really, REALLY hope the next guy doesn’t miss

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He’s deploying American soldiers on American soil to round up and intimidate American citizens, there has never been a bigger cunt in history and I’m including Hitler in that

Wonder if American leftists will still refuse to Denounce their army's Rape Culture if it's used against American citizens, something that practically the entire world knows about but they refuse to even think about it

 

[Logiko]

As I’ve said before, you gotta give Republicans one iota of credit…they saw a firebrand iconoclast energize the fringiest parts of their base and embraced him wholeheartedly, then they rode him all the way to two presidential terms; Democrats see progressive candidates garner massive support and decide to alienate everyone involved. Can’t shoot yourself in the foot and blame Bernie Sanders for the blood, you know??

This is exactly what US citizens need. Mamdani's integration to the democratic party would annihiliate the little chances for a potential third and leftist party to rise. It's a very good thing for leftists and a very bad thing for rightists and liberals.

Ain’t no way I revived logiko

Not just you. I was triggered by the fact that no one really cared to explain to you that a genocide does not imply the extermination of an entire group of people

Here are the definition from the ICC:

As you can see Israel is responsible not only of one, but MULTIPLE acts of genocides. And it's VERY important not to minimize this word - even if the ICC has not yet delivered a judgement on the word - because each time we minimize it, we help the agenda of the fascists who are doing this genocide in the first place.

I'm very serious. I understand your concern about not having a judgment yet, but for the moment lives are at stakes and we must NEVER allow ourselves to believe that what we say or do has zero impacts. Because it's wrong.

You and me, we are not a bunch nobody, we are a part of this society. And each one of our words can be spread, shared and felt.
Never underestimate that.

 

[Reborn]

This is exactly what US citizens need. Mamdani's integration to the democratic party would annihiliate the little chances for a potential third and leftist party to rise. It's a very good thing for leftists and a very bad thing for rightists and liberals.

Not just you. I was triggered by the fact that no one really cared to explain to you that a genocide does not imply the extermination of an entire group of people

Here are the definition from the ICC:

As you can see Israel is responsible not only of one, but MULTIPLE acts of genocides. And it's VERY important not to minimize this word - even if the ICC has not yet delivered a judgement on the word - because each time we minimize it, we help the agenda of the fascists who are doing this genocide in the first place.

I'm very serious. I understand your concern about not having a judgment yet, but for the moment lives are at stakes and we must NEVER allow ourselves to believe that what we say or do has zero impacts. Because it's wrong.

You and me, we are not a bunch nobody, we are a part of this society. And each one of our words can be spread, shared and felt.
Never underestimate that.

It still doesn't change the fact that we are getting

Spoiler: Spoiler

Loki 4 nakama

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

This is exactly what US citizens need. Mamdani's integration to the democratic party would annihiliate the little chances for a potential third and leftist party to rise. It's a very good thing for leftists and a very bad thing for rightists and liberals.

Not just you. I was triggered by the fact that no one really cared to explain to you that a genocide does not imply the extermination of an entire group of people

Here are the definition from the ICC:

As you can see Israel is responsible not only of one, but MULTIPLE acts of genocides. And it's VERY important not to minimize this word - even if the ICC has not yet delivered a judgement on the word - because each time we minimize it, we help the agenda of the fascists who are doing this genocide in the first place.

I'm very serious. I understand your concern about not having a judgment yet, but for the moment lives are at stakes and we must NEVER allow ourselves to believe that what we say or do has zero impacts. Because it's wrong.

You and me, we are not a bunch nobody, we are a part of this society. And each one of our words can be spread, shared and felt.
Never underestimate that.

When are you protesting Indonesia's new capital? Since your're anti genocide you said.

 

[Logiko]

It still doesn't change the fact that we are getting

Spoiler: Spoiler

Loki 4 nakama

I was the first one to call it mate .. kinda

(Hajrudin is actually the Loki, and Loki is actually the Thor in One Piece, Oda swaped them)

When are you protesting Indonesia's new capital? Since your're anti genocide you said.

I don't know enough about Indonesia, so I'm holding out my judgment. But if you want a clear marker of what I support: I'm with those who fight the ones in power, capitalism, Heteronormativity, colonialism, imperialism, ableism, fascism, patriarchy and systemic racism.

In short, people who fight against oppressive systemic domination system. So compare that situation with what you know of Indonesia, and you will know if I'm for or against

As for protesting, my options are kinda limited at the moment

 

[Midnight Delight]

I don't know enough about Indonesia, so I'm holding out my judgment. But if you want a clear marker of what I support: I'm with those who fight the ones in power, capitalism, Heteronormativity, colonialism, imperialism, ableism, fascism, patriarchy and systemic racism.

In short, people who fight against oppressive systemic domination system. So compare that situation with what you know of Indonesia, and you will know if I'm for or against

When are you protesting what's happening in Syria

 

[Logiko]

When are you protesting what's happening in Syria

We are not all knowing, we don't have enough tools to understand every situation of oppression and domination of the world on an individual scale. This is why there is not one, but multiple groups of focused activists on the left.

For the moment, our focus must be on the most urgent matter, which is a incoming planned extermination of millions and a situation of displacement and colonization. If nothing is done now, it will be too late to do it later.

There are others situations of genocide, but not with the same countdown. This is why I ask for everyone here to wake up about Gaza. It's not just some random conflict and massacre, this moment will be analysed as pivotal point in history.

 

[Reborn]

I was the first one to call it mate .. kinda

(Hajrudin is actually the Loki, and Loki is actually the Thor in One Piece, Oda swaped them)




I don't know enough about Indonesia, so I'm holding out my judgment. But if you want a clear marker of what I support: I'm with those who fight the ones in power, capitalism, Heteronormativity, colonialism, imperialism, ableism, fascism, patriarchy and systemic racism.

In short, people who fight against oppressive systemic domination system. So compare that situation with what you know of Indonesia, and you will know if I'm for or against

As for protesting, my options are kinda limited at the moment

Oh so you are for Loki for nakama

Why? Why you have to do this?

I guess it's over for Loki bros

@Naomi @Tyki_Mikk @Mr. Reloaded @Uncle Van Loki isn't joining. Logiko curse is too stronk

 

[Logiko]

Oh so you are for Loki for nakama

Why? Why you have to do this?

I guess it's over for Loki bros

@Naomi @Tyki_Mikk @Mr. Reloaded @Uncle Van Loki isn't joining. Logiko curse is too stronk

The only things that prevent me from being 100% LokiForNakama is his height (I don't see how he can fit on Sunny without an upgrade of the ship), his post (but it can appear later) and his Quirks that I don't really see at the moment.

Other than that, he is a far stronger candidate than Yamato at the time. I would even place him on the same level as Carrot (for different reasons)

 

[Naomi]

Oh so you are for Loki for nakama

Why? Why you have to do this?

I guess it's over for Loki bros

@Naomi @Tyki_Mikk @Mr. Reloaded @Uncle Van Loki isn't joining. Logiko curse is too stronk

what curse?

 

[Mathias]

Not just you. I was triggered by the fact that no one really cared to explain to you that a genocide does not imply the extermination of an entire group of people

I actually told him that it's not about the percentage. And I believe others did too.

You just missed us. You can say it

Spoiler: Logiko missed this forum

 

[AL sama]

what curse?

you don't belong here

this thread is cursed so stay away my dear