How has Donnie been effective? He has the National Guard cleaning up trash on the sidewalks because there just isn’t enough crime going on to justify their presence! Can you produce a single piece of evidence that his tactics have had any positive effective? Didn’t realize I had to condemn crime to be against it, who the fuck supports crime?? Do you have any critical thinking skills at all??
Guess not!!
Since you’re evidently incapable of using your real one, go tell your computer brain to find me something about other presidents being descended from slaveholders; shouldn’t be too hard if their families have been around enough, but just taking a wild guess here, something tells me Obama at the very least won’t be on that list. As for the rest, again, you aren’t providing any actual facts, you’re just bloviating into the void, so what reason do I have to take you seriously?? Moreover, why am I arguing about a guy who continuously defends Nazis and pedophiles? Wait, actually, I get why you’re supporting the latter…how low did you say you wanted the age of consent to be? 14? 13?
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“Never confirmed to be a KKK member” Then why was he present/arrested during the raid?? Was he there for the fucking refreshments?? Jesus, if Herrera ain’t the dumbest son of a bitch here…
I don't want to understand such words. If you with all that knowledge can't explain in a simple way then you don't know nothing you just repeat words that you hear/read somewhere else.
Like in our other conversation. I'm trying to explain... but an exchange goes both way.
I tried to explain those things so many times and I revieved only hatred, deny and laugh in return from mostly everyone, so now. I'm waiting for people to either ask, or be willing to have a normal conversation.
I'd love for people here to understand that what i'm trying to explain, is not simple stuff. It's not intuitive (at first), so it must be approached step by step.
No.
Those who defend Israel are not called Nazi by me just because of that, usually, they said some other stuff that are Nazi like.
Usually, I call ou those who defend Israel like that:
- Genocide apologist
- Genocide deniar
- Complicite in the invisibilization of a genocide
I do not "hate" the IDF, hate is something that does not really rings with me. Hate is dehumanization, it's considering the other as subhuman, and I never do that.
But yeah. I want the IDF gone, even through violence if necessary. I want they to be brought to justice and the army to be disassembled.
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Now, you are saying that without the IDF, palestinians (I'll ignore the essentialization) would've killed the Israelian.
First, no. Since there are also allies of Palestinians in Israel.
Second, without the army of Israel, there wouldn't have been a colonization in the first place, there wouldn't have been 70 years of oppression and massacres against Palestinian in and out of Gaza. Hate wouldn't be the same.
Now, yeah, palestinian would most likely be fighting against the settlers, but this doesn't mean that there would be necessary a bloodbath. This is like saying that native American would kill European stellers if they had no army when they came. What would you think would have happenned if European came without the desire to exploit the land and the people there and to colonize the entire territory?
How has Donnie been effective? He has the National Guard cleaning up trash on the sidewalks because there just isn’t enough crime going on to justify their presence! Can you produce a single piece of evidence that his tactics have had any positive effective? Didn’t realize I had to condemn crime to be against it, who the fuck supports crime?? Do you have any critical thinking skills at all??
The police is first to PREVENT crime then later to CATCH the criminal. Just being there is enoug to reduce crime. If there is no crime for them to act then their mere presence is proving to be effective.
Since you’re evidently incapable of using your real one, go tell your computer brain to find me something about other presidents being descended from slaveholders; shouldn’t be too hard if their families have been around enough, but just taking a wild guess here, something tells me Obama at the very least won’t be on that list. As for the rest, again, you aren’t providing any actual facts, you’re just bloviating into the void, so what reason do I have to take you seriously?? Moreover, why am I arguing about a guy who continuously defends Nazis and pedophiles? Wait, actually, I get why you’re supporting the latter…how low did you say you wanted the age of consent to be? 14? 13?
Not sure if I ever said what the age of consent should be. I say that here in Brazil is 14 and it works just well. Some arabic countries it is 12. But 18 is totally unreasonable and illogical.
The police is first to PREVENT crime then later to CATCH the criminal. Just being there is enoug to reduce crime. If there is no crime for them to act then their mere presence is proving to be effective.
False equivalence right here; the only way you can “prevent” crime is preemptively striking people who haven’t actually done anything wrong yet, which is exactly what fascists do for crowd control. If the crime rate hasn’t shown any discernible changes, then having the National Guard isn’t really doing shit since things are holding steady, and again, they’re out there like felons on the highway with vests and trash bags…for an administration that claims to be “America First,” misappropriating taxpayer money on a frivolous display of power and intimidating the populace doesn’t line up!! 🤯😒
Not sure if I ever said what the age of consent should be. I say that here in Brazil is 14 and it works just well. Some arabic countries it is 12. But 18 is totally unreasonable and illogical.
Aight, I’m big enough to admit I’m wrong on this one…doesn’t change anything I said about the Trump klan, but this country was literally founded on the backs of African slaves so we shouldn’t be surprised that other presidents would have this in their background
Lerrera ain't the only Brazilian assclown here who fits this description
@HerreraIsBack
Why do you even care so much about US events that don't affect you, you can't even vote for the cunt you're defending. What about taking a look at your own country's genocidal policies?
Talk to the wall because I'm not un-ignoring you to read your response
Like in our other conversation. I'm trying to explain... but an exchange goes both way.
I tried to explain those things so many times and I revieved only hatred, deny and laugh in return from mostly everyone, so now. I'm waiting for people to either ask, or be willing to have a normal conversation.
I'd love for people here to understand that what i'm trying to explain, is not simple stuff. It's not intuitive (at first), so it must be approached step by step.
No.
Those who defend Israel are not called Nazi by me just because of that, usually, they said some other stuff that are Nazi like.
Usually, I call ou those who defend Israel like that:
- Genocide apologist
- Genocide deniar
- Complicite in the invisibilization of a genocide
I do not "hate" the IDF, hate is something that does not really rings with me. Hate is dehumanization, it's considering the other as subhuman, and I never do that.
But yeah. I want the IDF gone, even through violence if necessary. I want they to be brought to justice and the army to be disassembled.
Now, you are saying that without the IDF, palestinians (I'll ignore the essentialization) would've killed the Israelian.
First, no. Since there are also allies of Palestinians in Israel.
Second, without the army of Israel, there wouldn't have been a colonization in the first place, there wouldn't have been 70 years of oppression and massacres against Palestinian in and out of Gaza. Hate wouldn't be the same.
Now, yeah, palestinian would most likely be fighting against the settlers, but this doesn't mean that there would be necessary a bloodbath. This is like saying that native American would kill European stellers if they had no army when they came. What would you think would have happenned if European came without the desire to exploit the land and the people there and to colonize the entire territory?
There is no essentialization. I really meant arabs because Israel historically was attacked by many arabic countries nearby. So saying just palestinians would be wrong.
Well your first no is wrong because those racists nazis don't care if you are pro palestine or not they would kill like they would kill a jew.
Your second means you don't know about history. British was in charge of that region before giving it to the born of Israel state. And before that was the Otaman Empire. There was no oppresion or massacre against Palestinians at all. By the opposite they tried to exterminate Israel from day 1 and failed over and over again.
Native americans wasn't so organized as people can easily be as today. I don't know what they thought of Europeans were at time. But they do had a lot of war between themselves for territory just like Europe used to as well (and still has nowaday). Europe would have no reason to come here without the intention to exploit and make it grown like Europe did.
Lerrera ain't the only Brazilian assclown here who fits this description
@HerreraIsBack
Why do you even care so much about US events that don't affect you, you can't even vote for the cunt you're defending. What about taking a look at your own country's genocidal policies?
Talk to the wall because I'm not un-ignoring you to read your response
You ignored me and then send me a message or you ignored me after sending the message?
I don't care if you reply or not, actually I rather if you don't. But I won't ignore that.
Why would I not care about US events just because is far from where I live and I cannot vote for their presidency? Why I defend Trump?
Well I don't defend Trump but only his ideas that I also agree with. I also have many disagreetments with Trump I've being saying here a lot recently about Russia. And yea I'm very grateful for Trump for what his is doing putting Alexandre de Moraes under Magnitisky Law for his dictatorship in Brazil.
But anyway, I care because I care about human beings all over the planet. I also care about what is happening in Ukraine, Europe as a whole, Asia, Africa etc. And why would you send that message to me when everyone here is talking about events all over the world?
My own country genocidal policies would be what exactly? Guess I will never know...
False equivalence right here; the only way you can “prevent” crime is preemptively striking people who haven’t actually done anything wrong yet, which is exactly what fascists do for crowd control. If the crime rate hasn’t shown any discernible changes, then having the National Guard isn’t really doing shit since things are holding steady, and again, they’re out there like felons on the highway with vests and trash bags…for an administration that claims to be “America First,” misappropriating taxpayer money on a frivolous display of power and intimidating the populace doesn’t line up!! 🤯😒
You are ignorant on the matter. No criminal wanna do any crime in front of police or even if there is police nearby. Just having more police at street, patrol etc helps to reduce the crime.
And how are crime rates not changed but at the same time there is no crime for National Guard to deal with? Those two can't be true at same time.
Aight, I’m big enough to admit I’m wrong on this one…doesn’t change anything I said about the Trump klan, but this country was literally founded on the backs of African slaves so we shouldn’t be surprised that other presidents would have this in their background
Funny to see how you suddenly changed your reproval of this matter since you can't blame Trump on it. But I agree. It is absurd to pull guilty into someone who lives today about what someone who lived 200 years ago in their family did.
You are ignorant on the matter. No criminal wanna do any crime in front of police or even if there is police nearby. Just having more police at street, patrol etc helps to reduce the crime.
And how are crime rates not changed but at the same time there is no crime for National Guard to deal with? Those two can't be true at same time.
You’ll forgive me if I dismiss that “ignorant” comment from someone with your track record…and again, crime prevention entails more than just standing around armed to the fucking teeth in random neighborhoods, they’re not actually helping in any tangible way. I never said there was no crime, but all the numbers show that the rate wasn’t higher than usual before he called in reinforcements and it doesn’t seem to have increased OR decreased yet, so there’s visibly no need for more police when there isn’t more crime. Run that through ChatGPT if you need it in simpler terms, I’m already explaining this as slowly as I can…
Funny to see how you suddenly changed your reproval of this matter since you can't blame Trump on it. But I agree. It is absurd to pull guilty into someone who lives today about what someone who lived 200 years ago in their family did.
You don’t seem to understand this, so I’ll hold your hand through it - Trump is every bit as complicit in fomenting racial discord as anyone else who’s held his office (if not more so), I can’t help it if you refuse to do a 30 second Google search (slightly less erratic than your AI of choice) and see all the proof that’s been published for 50 years and you clearly can’t comprehend the idea that a fire has to be the source of the smoke. Owning slaves in the 1800s is only disqualifying if the guy who called white supremacists “very fine people” after Charlottesville is also held accountable, one is MUCH more immediately concerning than the other. This isn’t just a generational thing, he has been repeatedly called to task for his race baiting in his own time, it’s only his defenders who seem to think he arrived out of the ether squeaky clean in 2015 because they can’t remember any further back than that.
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No, you bearded ghoul, you pray because actually taking action to keep people safe would disrupt the revenue flow of the gun market you run and you don’t wanna risk pissing off the NRA…nobody’s attacking you for your beliefs, we’re attacking you for not following through on them
You’ll forgive me if I dismiss that “ignorant” comment from someone with your track record…and again, crime prevention entails more than just standing around armed to the fucking teeth in random neighborhoods, they’re not actually helping in any tangible way. I never said there was no crime, but all the numbers show that the rate wasn’t higher than usual before he called in reinforcements and it doesn’t seem to have increased OR decreased yet, so there’s visibly no need for more police when there isn’t more crime. Run that through ChatGPT if you need it in simpler terms, I’m already explaining this as slowly as I can…
Just being there doing nothing while armed is enough to help reduce. Again no criminal would commit a crime in front of officer's face or knowing there is one nearby. Plus just saying that crimes wasn't higher than usual is very vague and doesn't means much. The usual compared to what? And even if it is the usual, if the usual is high crime rate that means you should do nothing about it? This is not an argument.
And ChatGPT helped me again, just like before with Obama's slaveholders family members, and it seems that we had a significantly dropped in crimes in such a short period (less than 20 days)
You don’t seem to understand this, so I’ll hold your hand through it - Trump is every bit as complicit in fomenting racial discord as anyone else who’s held his office (if not more so), I can’t help it if you refuse to do a 30 second Google search (slightly less erratic than your AI of choice) and see all the proof that’s been published for 50 years and you clearly can’t comprehend the idea that a fire has to be the source of the smoke. Owning slaves in the 1800s is only disqualifying if the guy who called white supremacists “very fine people” after Charlottesville is also held accountable, one is MUCH more immediately concerning than the other. This isn’t just a generational thing, he has been repeatedly called to task for his race baiting in his own time, it’s only his defenders who seem to think he arrived out of the ether squeaky clean in 2015 because they can’t remember any further back than that.
You the one who doesn't understand, or worse you understand but you are being hypocrite on purpose as you already admitted.
What I said about not blaming people of today about ancestors actions of 200 years ago has nothing to do with Trump but the very Obama. You just need to make everything about Trump. But anyway black people did good at Trump's governament not something that should happen if he was racist or something. Just like Palestinian population and Arabic population inside Israel growing despite the false accusations of genocide.
If everything was simple, we would agree instantly on everything.
But as you can see in the other conversation, it's not a simple task to be simple about such complicated subjects, it requiere a lot of explanations. Once you we will be synchronized, you will see that none of what I'm saying is an overcomplication. It's actually quite the opposite.
Are you sure about that ?
For me, hatred has the value of dehumanization. This means that if I hated someone, I would view them less valuable than humans and animals. That I would consider their existence as usueless. But I can't do that, even for genociders. It's beyond me.
This is still coherent with the wish of wanting the IDF gone as the IDF is commiting forced stavation, apartheid, tortures, war crimes, journalist killing and overall, a genocide.
If violence is necessary to stop a criminal action, violence is the ETHICAL thing to do. It doesn't mean we have to see people as sub-human while we are fighting.
But before talking about violence, we can already ask for the colonial and apartheid state of Israel and the IDF to be dismantled. That would be a start.
Well your first no is wrong because those racists nazis don't care if you are pro palestine or not they would kill like they would kill a jew.
Your second means you don't know about history. British was in charge of that region before giving it to the born of Israel state. And before that was the Otaman Empire. There was no oppresion or massacre against Palestinians at all. By the opposite they tried to exterminate Israel from day 1 and failed over and over again.
There are nuances to this. There were wars, yes. but the native of Abya Laya were exceptionnally organized. Of course, not to the point of today's nations, but the organizations of societies, the way they interacted, the technological wonders they achieved, the level of political awereness they had..
It was on a different level. Conquerors had the technology and the weapon, Natives had the awereness and the hearth of the land. (and i'm not saying that in the cringe way, it was a real political structure system were the land was not private property but a shared environement). A little 500 more years and they would have developped one of the most advanced civilization of the planet. Do NOT underestimate those people.
Once europpeans started their conquest, there were already actions of resistance, organized groups, and strategies of rebellion. It just happen that those colonizers were stronger.
At first, a lot of Europpean were welcomed as friends.
If violence is necessary to stop a criminal action, violence is the ETHICAL thing to do. It doesn't mean we have to see people as sub-human while we are fighting.
and the contagious diseases. Don't underestimate their impact. Entire regions were depopulated before directly coming in contact because disease traveled faster.
There are nuances to this. There were wars, yes. but the native of Abya Laya were exceptionnally organized. Of course, not to the point of today's nations, but the organizations of societies, the way they interacted, the technological wonders they achieved, the level of political awereness they had..
yoire talking to a guy who probably thinks indigenous Americans were too dumb to invent the wheel and lIVed iN The STOnE aGe because they used obsidian knives.
and the contagious diseases. Don't underestimate their impact. Entire regions were depopulated before directly coming in contact because disease traveled faster.
It comes from the Guna poeple, in Panama. A delegation proposed this term and it has been used since then by natives and sociologists. I'm using this term to be respectfull when I'm talking about the genocide of native Americans by Europeans.
Just being there doing nothing while armed is enough to help reduce. Again no criminal would commit a crime in front of officer's face or knowing there is one nearby. Plus just saying that crimes wasn't higher than usual is very vague and doesn't means much. The usual compared to what? And even if it is the usual, if the usual is high crime rate that means you should do nothing about it? This is not an argument.
Criminals are gonna do their thing regardless of the police, knowing that the cops exist doesn’t seem to have been a deterrent at any other point in time…and I don’t know how many times I have to tell you this, nobody is advocating for letting crime run rampant, but your argument is that punishing citizens for things they haven’t even done is an acceptable method of law enforcement rather than an extremely distressing precedent for rounding up and dehumanizing desperate people instead of getting to the root cause of why they do drastic things. If you yearn to be under a strongman’s thumb, have at it, but that doesn’t justify assuming someone’s guilty of something without actual proof.
And ChatGPT helped me again, just like before with Obama's slaveholders family members, and it seems that we had a significantly dropped in crimes in such a short period (less than 20 days)
It was already trending down before the occupation, so why was it necessary? If Donnie’s trying to accomplish something, it was happening without him needing to do anything, which tells me this is just him infringing on peoples’ rights for no reason other than being a vindictive piece of shit
You the one who doesn't understand, or worse you understand but you are being hypocrite on purpose as you already admitted.
What I said about not blaming people of today about ancestors actions of 200 years ago has nothing to do with Trump but the very Obama. You just need to make everything about Trump. But anyway black people did good at Trump's governament not something that should happen if he was racist or something. Just like Palestinian population and Arabic population inside Israel growing despite the false accusations of genocide.
https://progressivereform.org/cpr-b...t-black-americans-have-deep-historical-roots/
I don’t even know where you’re going with that “Black people are prospering under Donnie” shit, but his last administration made it more difficult for them to acquire housing and his current one is ripping through vulnerable communities like theirs with the Medicaid cuts, so please tell ChatGPT to be a little more coherent next time
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Hell, if Donnie REALLY wanted to crack down on crime, he’d release the Epstein files and arrest anyone named therein…but he won’t, and if the aspiring pedo Herrera could use his brain for something other than pining for 12 year olds, he might understand the reason why he wouldn’t
Criminals are gonna do their thing regardless of the police, knowing that the cops exist doesn’t seem to have been a deterrent at any other point in time…and I don’t know how many times I have to tell you this, nobody is advocating for letting crime run rampant, but your argument is that punishing citizens for things they haven’t even done is an acceptable method of law enforcement rather than an extremely distressing precedent for rounding up and dehumanizing desperate people instead of getting to the root cause of why they do drastic things. If you yearn to be under a strongman’s thumb, have at it, but that doesn’t justify assuming someone’s guilty of something without actual proof.
It was already trending down before the occupation, so why was it necessary? If Donnie’s trying to accomplish something, it was happening without him needing to do anything, which tells me this is just him infringing on peoples’ rights for no reason other than being a vindictive piece of shit
Again just because it was better than before doesn't mean it was any good. Was still high and he speed up the process. Pretty sure the people who would suffer such crimes would be happy if they knew they'd suffer it without Trump doing nothing.
https://progressivereform.org/cpr-b...t-black-americans-have-deep-historical-roots/
I don’t even know where you’re going with that “Black people are prospering under Donnie” shit, but his last administration made it more difficult for them to acquire housing and his current one is ripping through vulnerable communities like theirs with the Medicaid cuts, so please tell ChatGPT to be a little more coherent next time
You don't even understand how ChatGPT works and yet is talking shit about it. It gave me data from better sources than progressive forum showing how his administration improved black people live just like previous Barack Obama did and Biden too.
Hell, if Donnie REALLY wanted to crack down on crime, he’d release the Epstein files and arrest anyone named therein…but he won’t, and if the aspiring pedo Herrera could use his brain for something other than pining for 12 year olds, he might understand the reason why he wouldn’t
It seems they were arrested for being illegally at US. Which is a policy that I don't defend at all. But it is you that supports the governament to have the power to do whatever it wants. I'm a libertarian not a communist like you.
No natives own the continent. That was the basis of their organization system.
The continent was not a property, but a shared home. There were territories and nations but not the kind of capitalistic property of land that we can see today.
I love your ragebait, you always end up helping me make a point.
That's not all! If you observe closely, you will see that my words are usually backwards, that I have a problem with the english langague, that I have weird repetititive errors of spelling and that I can't pronounce "sence" correctly which - for some reason - tends to annoy Nameless a lot !
I write like I here and speak, and since I have language speaking issues and probably a form of dyslexia, I write weirdly. Which is a kind of ironic for someone who wants to create stories
It's a matter of point of view. What do you consider as "progress" ? Cause Materialists tend to consider this notion as obsolete. Progress from an imperialist perspective is not progress really.
The national security is not supposed to be deployed AGAINST the citizens without cause, they’re not protecting anyone by terrorizing regular people who, again, have not actually committed any crimes yet. If anyone in charge really cared about eliminating crime, they wouldn’t be slashing access to and funding for social services and public healthcare like it’ll somehow save them from going to Hell when they finally die…instead, we get our own military turned on us
Again just because it was better than before doesn't mean it was any good. Was still high and he speed up the process. Pretty sure the people who would suffer such crimes would be happy if they knew they'd suffer it without Trump doing nothing.
What does this even mean?? How do people who are weaving in between National Guard members when walking to the corner store know they “would” be suffering from unwarranted violence?? This is one of the more asinine things you’ve said, and I’m including your stated desire to bang preteens
You don't even understand how ChatGPT works and yet is talking shit about it. It gave me data from better sources than progressive forum showing how his administration improved black people live just like previous Barack Obama did and Biden too.
I don’t rely on artificial intelligence to form my opinions or spare me the trouble of using my own powers of comprehension, no fucking machine is smarter than me!! 🤬🤬🤬
You posted one CBS News article, I thought you people didn’t trust mainstream media??? And where did it say anything about how he’s supposedly Black People’s White Savior?? God, if you think giving yourself over to a fake brain rather than using your own is something to be proud of, I’d hate to see what you consider phoning it in…
It seems they were arrested for being illegally at US. Which is a policy that I don't defend at all. But it is you that supports the governament to have the power to do whatever it wants. I'm a libertarian not a communist like you.
So we should pull people away from saving lives and land instead of picking a time when they’re not risking it all…I take it back, keep using ChatGPT because this is as dumb as it is callous. Also, fuckin’ lol at me apparently rooting for an all-powerful government, I’ve spent all day railing against it and this numbnuts is too preoccupied thinking about 14 year olds to pay any attention
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Wait, also fuckin’ LOL at “I’m a libertarian” like it means anything other than “even dumber conservative who likes to smoke pot”
Herrera in a nutshell:
>hates transgender people and defends white supremacists, strike “equality before the law and protection of civil rights” from the list
>thinks people should be punished before actually committing crimes and cheers on a country’s military occupying itself, there goes all the “freedom of” examples
>again, loves crowd control and military occupation, erase “oppose authority” et.al.
Some fucking libertarian we got here!! Hell, by this definition, I’M closer to being one than YOU are!! What do you have to say for yourself, comrade?!
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