General & Others Kizaru was a bum in Egghead, im tired of everyone saying otherwise
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Agreed. Kizaru was an incoherent mess. I do see where oda was coming from though but its bizarre how one second he wants to save bonney and next instant he went to kill her.
As for feats Kizaru was good in terms of speed and defense. Meh in terms of AP. Also oda's vagueness in drawing adv coc for luffy also added to the issue.
We only got one panel of G4 vs Kizaru and in that one panel oda doesn't draw adv coc. Same for G5 minus WSG.
As for feats Kizaru was good in terms of speed and defense. Meh in terms of AP. Also oda's vagueness in drawing adv coc for luffy also added to the issue.
We only got one panel of G4 vs Kizaru and in that one panel oda doesn't draw adv coc. Same for G5 minus WSG.
It was all just a giant pirate love pentagon, I see now.
Shakuyaku, Kuma, Rayleigh, and Kizaru reappeared around the same time, because they are from Saboady Archipelego.
The only character out of all mentioned that Luffy isn't heavily tied to is Shakky, and notice that she is starring in recent chapters.
Kizaru was going to be stopped, Luffy was trained by Rayleigh, Kuma is going to survive, and things are pointing to Shakky being more important for Luffy than Boa Hancock in some way.
The only character out of all mentioned that Luffy isn't heavily tied to is Shakky, and notice that she is starring in recent chapters.
Kizaru was going to be stopped, Luffy was trained by Rayleigh, Kuma is going to survive, and things are pointing to Shakky being more important for Luffy than Boa Hancock in some way.
As character he did disappoint with his actions.
From powerscaling side he did way better than I expected , was thinking he would fight equally with G4 and Luffy will use G5 to absolutely demolish him , but he proved he can fight for 1 round and later feed Luffy . Proved he is legit yonko level overall.
From powerscaling side he did way better than I expected , was thinking he would fight equally with G4 and Luffy will use G5 to absolutely demolish him , but he proved he can fight for 1 round and later feed Luffy . Proved he is legit yonko level overall.
He is just poorly written, that's the problem.
You want readers to believe that Kizaru cares about Kuma and Vegapunk so much that he doesn't fight seriously, feeds Luffy, pretends to be defeated etc.?
Ok, all fine.
But then in the meantime you also have him just watch his friend Kuma getting turned into a brainless machine without some sneaky plot to save him and effectively murdering his other friend Vegapunk himself.
So you have actions that can only be explained with "he loves his friends and therefore turns a blind eye on the responsibilities of his job" and other actions that can only be explained with "he is a full blown professional and finishes his job".
It's just not consistent.
You want readers to believe that Kizaru cares about Kuma and Vegapunk so much that he doesn't fight seriously, feeds Luffy, pretends to be defeated etc.?
Ok, all fine.
But then in the meantime you also have him just watch his friend Kuma getting turned into a brainless machine without some sneaky plot to save him and effectively murdering his other friend Vegapunk himself.
So you have actions that can only be explained with "he loves his friends and therefore turns a blind eye on the responsibilities of his job" and other actions that can only be explained with "he is a full blown professional and finishes his job".
It's just not consistent.
What?
He was just giving them a chance to get saved from him. He still believes in his own justice and is doing his duty, he was not gonna stop from trying to kill them but he had no problem if he was gonna get stopped by someone.
Too bad for Kziaru no one was powerful enough to stop kizaru at his weakest.
He was just giving them a chance to get saved from him. He still believes in his own justice and is doing his duty, he was not gonna stop from trying to kill them but he had no problem if he was gonna get stopped by someone.
Too bad for Kziaru no one was powerful enough to stop kizaru at his weakest.
Haven’t commented on these threads in like, years but I had to put my two cents in on this:
The Kizaru “fight” would’ve been better if Saturn had just shown up later alongside the other Elders, his arrival totally ruined the momentum of the fight and made Kizaru feel like an add on in a conflict that could have been greatly geared around him, specifically.
Kizaru and Lucci failing and all the Elders arriving due to this not only makes sense, it also doesn’t call into question the legitimacy of their concerns as they should trust one of the Admirals and a slew of Vice Admirals to handle the situation without intervention.
The Kizaru “fight” would’ve been better if Saturn had just shown up later alongside the other Elders, his arrival totally ruined the momentum of the fight and made Kizaru feel like an add on in a conflict that could have been greatly geared around him, specifically.
Kizaru and Lucci failing and all the Elders arriving due to this not only makes sense, it also doesn’t call into question the legitimacy of their concerns as they should trust one of the Admirals and a slew of Vice Admirals to handle the situation without intervention.