Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

[park_min young]

Rayleigh's scenes here are supposed to be dramatic, for the sake of romance. That's all it is. We have no idea who he fought or what he just went through. You can't downplay BM shitting her pants at the sight of Garp, then running away, and then overanalyze Oda trying to make a Romeo and Juliet chapter for Rayleigh where he is huffing and puffing for the sake of drama. Usually when characters are emotionally invested in something Oda will draw them in this manner.

The Big Mom scene had no other purpose other than Garp punking her for the sake of it, it's purely done for Garp to flex on her. There is no way to twist it into Rayleigh somehow looking worse than BM when she is soiling her pants while Garp laughs off her attack. WB ran but he didn't get punked in the same manner. He's actually the only one Oda made sure to draw not sweating if I'm seeing correctly.

All the more reason to evaluate his performance more seriously, it was a serious moment where Shakky’s life was in danger yet his named attack still looked mid. He also had the worst looking bruises in the entire lineup. Roger also paved the path for Ray, it’s implied that the former or WB would have beaten Ray to it.

The Garp scene was lighthearted to begin with, especially when he comes in hot while calling Newgate a sea king lol. Oda also made sure to highlight that BM and WB didn’t want to drag things out as it’s a waste of time. BM just threw a half-assed attack while on the run to try and slow Garp down, it’s not like she was locked in anyways. It’s already established that she didn’t want to waste time.

 

[Ven437]

Ad hominem
Address my points.

I dont debate srsly with clowns like you, a Shishio or AI chatbot Legend levels of troll. Stick to your own irrational wank threads

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I dont debate srsly with clowns like you, a Shishio or AI chatbot Legend levels of troll

So are you going to address what I said or

 

[ZenZu]

Lmfao no way this dude talking about optics when Pizzaru was one-shot by G5 and the only hint we have of kizaruber eats is in a random SBS passage where Oda dont even say it outright months after it happens @park_min young

Issue is Kizaru suffered virtually no scratches, Oda made sure of that and then Oda followed up by confirming he's not even remotely injured (his underlings were asking where he's hurt cause they can't see anything) staying down on his own accord.

Kizaru was hardly even focused on Luffy all arc it was pretty clear to anyone agenda aside, that the mission was taxing him not Luffy.

The context for Big Mom here is she just shat her pants because Garp put the fear of god in her. What are we supposed to be looking at? That's all the scene is and serves to do. That's not what Kizaru's scene on Egghead served to do.

 

[Reborn]

unlike a certain obese Emperor...

^^^

 

[Ven437]

So are you going to address what I said or

Cries about ad hominem but starts it by saying I got irrational wank

No wonder youre the testicle supplier of this forum

 

[Reborn]

Issue is Kizaru suffered virtually no scratches, Oda made sure of that and then Oda followed up by confirming he's not even remotely injured (his underlings were asking where he's hurt cause they can't see anything) staying down on his own accord.

Kizaru was hardly even focused on Luffy all arc it was pretty clear to anyone agenda aside, that the mission was taxing him not Luffy.

The context for Big Mom here is she just shat her pants because Garp put the fear of god in her. What are we supposed to be looking at? That's all the scene is and serves to do. That's not what Kizaru's scene on Egghead served to do.

That tag line of yours over the tag fits the tag so well

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

^^^

Blackbeard could actually defeat Law, he's cool
I'm talking about a certain female obese Emperor..

Cries about ad hominem but starts it by saying I got irrational wank

No wonder youre the testicle supplier of this forum

Is that relevant to Big Mom being unable to defeat Law with multiple free shots while she was empowered with her lifespan?

 

[Ven437]

Issue is Kizaru suffered virtually no scratches, Oda made sure of that and then Oda followed up by confirming he's not even remotely injured (his underlings were asking where he's hurt cause they can't see anything) staying down on his own accord.

Kizaru was hardly even focused on Luffy all arc it was pretty clear to anyone agenda aside, that the mission was taxing him not Luffy.

The context for Big Mom here is she just shat her pants because Garp put the fear of god in her.

Do you actually listen to yourself saying allis lmfao

park min young trynna tell you the CONTEXT is BM had goals to achieve instead of wasting time fighting Garp. Oda threw Primebeard in there too so readers dont get the wrong idea to boot

But instead youre narrowly minded on about how Garp put the fear of god in them when she herself launched an attack on Garp and he used ACoC to block it

It's like youre so painfully dense when it comes to BM but when an admiral comes up you suddenly take into account detail # 9482

This is what we call bias, pure and simple. And why nobody takes this srsly (except for trolling)

 

[ZenZu]

All the more reason to evaluate his performance more seriously, it was a serious moment where Shakky’s life was in danger yet his named attack still looked mid. He also had the worst looking bruises in the entire lineup. Roger also paved the path for Ray, it’s implied that the former or WB would have beaten Ray to it.

The Garp scene was lighthearted to begin with, especially when he comes in hot while calling Newgate a sea king lol. Oda also made sure to highlight that BM and WB didn’t want to drag things out as it’s a waste of time. BM just threw a half-assed attack while on the run to try and slow Garp down, it’s not like she was locked in anyways. It’s already established that she didn’t want to waste time.

i'll let the pages speak for themselves. Idk why you're lying to yourself.

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Do you actually listen to yourself saying allis lmfao

park min young trynna tell you the CONTEXT is BM had goals to achieve instead of wasting time fighting Garp. Oda threw Primebeard in there too so readers dont get the wrong idea to boot

But instead youre narrowly minded on about how Garp put the fear of god in them when she herself launched an attack on Garp and he used ACoC to block it

It's like youre so painfully dense when it comes to BM but when an admiral comes up you suddenly take into account detail # 9482

This is what we call bias, pure and simple. And why nobody takes this srsly (except for trolling)

What does that have to do with Big Mom attacking Garp (this wasn't some small panel either, took an entire page), doing zero damage and then drowning herself in sweat while running away? Listen to yourself cope.

 

[Ven437]

Blackbeard could actually defeat Law, he's cool
I'm talking about a certain female obese Emperor..

Is that relevant to Big Mom being unable to defeat Law with multiple free shots while she was empowered with her lifespan?

Is that relevant to why you keep acting like a retard

 

[park_min young]

i'll let the pages speak for themselves. Idk why you're lying to yourself.

Yeah, I don’t know how this counters anything I said. Supposed to be a funny and hype scene for Garp. Oda already established that BM and WB didn’t want to waste time on Garp while the real weakling, Kaido, acted too naive. Kuzan actually looked just as bad or worse against old Garp on multiple occasions, and that was a more serious fight.

 

[ZenZu]

It's like she was being chased by the Boogeyman, Oda adding her attacking Garp just to do nothing was purely to dunk on her in favour of him. There's no other context. That is the context. She is not just running away while laughing, she is soiling herself after witnessing what just happened. This is not a gag, it's establishing hierarchy.

I'll repeat if Rayleigh got a scene like this, he would never ever be able to recover from it. It's insane to even imagine it.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Is that relevant to why you keep acting like a retard

Also Reborn made me remember Teach did so much better than her it's insane. He took a Shock Wille like a champ, no whining about the pain and trying to heal himself and all that bullshit, he just took it on the chin and proceeded to wipe his ass with Law.
That's how a real Emperor does it. Mid diffed a dude with top tier AP and laughed in his face too. Teach is just that guy

 

[sanjikun]

It's like she was being chased by the Boogeyman, Oda adding her attacking Garp just to do nothing was purely to dunk on her in favour of him. There's no other context. That is the context. She is not just running away while laughing, she is soiling herself after witnessing what just happened. This is not a gag, it's establishing hierarchy.

I'll repeat if Rayleigh got a scene like this, he would never ever be able to recover from it. It's insane to even imagine it.

What is your point here? In their prime WB and Kaido will stomp Garp. Garp was never called the World's Strongest anything.

You think Oda is calling WB the WSM and Kaido WSC for shits and giggles?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

What is your point here? In their prime WB and Kaido will stomp Garp. Garp was never called the World's Strongest anything.

Whitebeard is equal to Roger
Roger is equal to Garp
Do the math.

 

[soupongo]

Point is that characters not having a "Haki explosion" isn't downplay

I didn´t say that lol? I said that it´s a boost for Kuzan. I don´t remember downplaying anyone else.

 

[sanjikun]

Whitebeard is equal to Roger
Roger is equal to Garp
Do the math.

Garp was never said to be equal to Roger in Roger's prime. They fought deadly duels, but Roger and WB are clearly on their own by the time of Roger's death.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Linlin does look genuinely terrified of Garp

@ZenZu is right the scene isn’t portraying it as a tactical retreat at all, Garp is literally drawn like a terrifying demon

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Garp was never said to be equal to Roger in Roger's prime. They fought deadly duels, but Roger and WB are clearly on their own by the time of Roger's death.

Roger himself said they were
This isn't about what you think