General & Others The Yamato Cover Story

#84
And despite that and the endless Wano wanking over a pretty but hollow sideboob, Wano still had the biggest drop in sales in the series' history.

Also, was it just me, or did Wano feel painfully over-promoted? It felt like Toei and JUMP went out of their way to artificially inflate its popularity to the point that it got more promotion than any previous arc. You had Shinto shrines selling Wano-themed goods before the arc even began, thousands of overpriced merch items released during its run when compared to past arcs, and countless cross-promotions with other brands just to hype it up, even more so in its first year than both runs of Dressrosa and Marineford. Even Funimation, Crunchyroll, and VIZ went overboard with the marketing — far more than they ever did for any other arc being localized. This had to have been a personal request from Oda himself, who clearly believed Wano was meant to be his magnum opus.
Wano being the series' biggest sales drop means Anti-Wano individuals like me are literally vindicated by history. :pepehawk:
 
#85
It reminded me pre ts covers by how much it affected the story overall. Oda really wanted to do a Wano tour i guess. Not good or not bad cover story just we get to see what everyone is doing right now.
 
#86
It reminded me pre ts covers by how much it affected the story overall. Oda really wanted to do a Wano tour i guess. Not good or not bad cover story just we get to see what everyone is doing right now.
Oda honestly wanted to do a lot more with Wano that he ended up doing.

You could even defend him to some extent and say that outside pressures had him make certain choices rather than others.

That Naito editor's obsession with Carrot had the bunny get more panel-time than needed; as soon as Naito left, so was Carrot dropped. So, without her, maybe Oda would've had, what, half an extra chapter to show more barren wasteland?

And then there was the marketing campaign for Film Red, which Oda chose to support over his own hand-drawn story, shortcutting Greenbull's introduction by feeding him to Shanks' hype.

Say that those two major events were forced upon Oda (and I'm using that word with a lot of leeway), but that only removes about 2 to 3 chapters from Wano's overall bloat of 149 chapters!

How does a worldbuilding master storyteller not find in 149 chapters room to show the aspects of the island he had been dying to show for over 20 IRL years?
 
#87
Oda honestly wanted to do a lot more with Wano that he ended up doing.

You could even defend him to some extent and say that outside pressures had him make certain choices rather than others.

That Naito editor's obsession with Carrot had the bunny get more panel-time than needed; as soon as Naito left, so was Carrot dropped. So, without her, maybe Oda would've had, what, half an extra chapter to show more barren wasteland?

And then there was the marketing campaign for Film Red, which Oda chose to support over his own hand-drawn story, shortcutting Greenbull's introduction by feeding him to Shanks' hype.

Say that those two major events were forced upon Oda (and I'm using that word with a lot of leeway), but that only removes about 2 to 3 chapters from Wano's overall bloat of 149 chapters!

How does a worldbuilding master storyteller not find in 149 chapters room to show the aspects of the island he had been dying to show for over 20 IRL years?
What are you talking about i am talking about the cover story not the arc. Ofc most people on here hates Wano but this isnt what i wrote about. I dont hate wano and i disagree with most people write about the arcs problem but thats for another time. Oda usually does cover stories on the islands we are before just to show us what characters are doing.
 
#90
So was I, smartpants.
I was replying directly to this:

Oda had plenty of Wano places planned, yet he didn't manage to squeeze them in the manga's longest arc to date.
Read what i wrote again i said Oda loves visiting previous islands in a cover story. I said Oda loves it to showus what previous island is doing AFTER STRAWHATS LEFT.
 
#91
Read what i wrote again i said Oda loves visiting previous islands in a cover story. I said Oda loves it to showus what previous island is doing AFTER STRAWHATS LEFT.
Yeah, dude, your message wasn't a fucking complex code to crack. You wrote three sentences; only the second one piqued my interest, so I expanded on it. I get what you're saying. Might seem like a novel thing, but I was only replying to part of your message.
 
#92
Yeah, dude, your message wasn't a fucking complex code to crack. You wrote three sentences; only the second one piqued my interest, so I expanded on it. I get what you're saying. Might seem like a novel thing, but I was only replying to part of your message.
Thats okay i was just suprised because like how random wano criticism came to my comment for no reason. Maybe i am tired seeing the same old comments over and over again. Sorry if i offended you.
 
#94
You didn't offend me, we're just wasting time over saying the same thing from different POVs.
You see Wano explored in a cover story as part of Oda's old trend; I see it as him wanting to show more of the island and having been unable to do so while the crew was on said island.
I see i didnt think we saw a new place thats why i disagreed but you are right. Oda wanted to explore wano for one last time i guess.
 
#96
Making Wano the origin of seastone and poneglyphs also pisses me off, as if Oda didn't already make the island needlessly super special. It wouldn't surprise me if Oda declares that the sunken portion of Wano was actually the ancient kingdom from the Void Century too, or that Wano is the origin of the first devil fruit.
One of the reasons why this arc annoyed me so much, Oda didn't stop trying to tie almost everything back to Wano with it not only having a Road Poneglyph but being the birthplace of the poneglyphs, of seastone and only place where it can be mined and carved, Kaido's HQ, Oden and his ties with Whitebeard and Roger, and being Pluton's hidden place.

This cover story showed Oda couldn't stop himself, with Moria being made a Kozuki even if it adds nothing to his character, and that he's more interesting as independent from Wano and this shitty clan.
 
#99
It should have shown the fate of the beast pirate at least
Next coverstory. or when BB infiltrates Wano
One of the reasons why this arc annoyed me so much, Oda didn't stop trying to tie almost everything back to Wano with it not only having a Road Poneglyph but being the birthplace of the poneglyphs, of seastone and only place where it can be mined and carved, Kaido's HQ, Oden and his ties with Whitebeard and Roger, and being Pluton's hidden place.

This cover story showed Oda couldn't stop himself, with Moria being made a Kozuki even if it adds nothing to his character, and that he's more interesting as independent from Wano and this shitty clan.
Loda simply loves his homeland, let him be😭
 
Straight to the point:

What on earth was the point of that insanely long cover story?

Not a single important thing for future events was set up. No Pluton lore, no (much needed) character development for Yamato, nothing.
More respect to Moria than Oden.
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That Naito editor's obsession with Carrot had the bunny get more panel-time than needed; as soon as Naito left, so was Carrot dropped.
Pure conjecture, you really think he had any push on Oda when at this time his editors became a lot more obedient of him? Carrot's sidelining was a bloat issue, but still had some set up for her story later down the line, this was Momo's mainly. I used to have gripes to how she was done, but if it leads to more (which I believe will) then there's nothing to really complain here; her defeat was symbolic because she went backwards instead of onwards yet it wasn't fruitless either since it saved Marco.
 
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