Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion
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"Why should the marines be cautious of Wano", specifically the current events in Wano, BM and Kaido's alliance to pursue the One Piece. We agree on the context. And to that effect what did Sengoku do as a passing remark after the history lesson on Rocks? He brought up Oden. Sakazuki somehow bypassed the most obvious connection Oden has to current events, his mysterious role in Roger's final voyage to the One Piece, and identified him as a long gone WB division commander. Sengoku then had to step in and mention his connection to Roger.
If anything, the context makes it even more clear that Oden is generally viewed as a WB pirate first. Which again, makes perfect sense. Oden would have been unable to build up his reputation in Roger's crew during a 1 year voyage that took place years after the battles and rivalries that made the crew's strongest individuals notable had passed. Oden doesn't factor into people's general perception of the Roger pirates.
If anything, the context makes it even more clear that Oden is generally viewed as a WB pirate first. Which again, makes perfect sense. Oden would have been unable to build up his reputation in Roger's crew during a 1 year voyage that took place years after the battles and rivalries that made the crew's strongest individuals notable had passed. Oden doesn't factor into people's general perception of the Roger pirates.
I mean, see how they haven’t been talking about Rayleigh recently, so as not to downplay Kizaru.
Factually before Marineford, WB was on life support, and while asleep, he could avoid being attacked by Ace.
In Marineford, WB, without life support, couldn't avoid being damaged by Squard.
But according to the assmiraL copers, saying WB couldn't use haki is nonsense...
We even have this panel.
Prime Garp who already fought battles with Roger, Imu and others , went doing specific training to increase his Attack power, smashing mountains to defeat Chinjao drill in direct clash. He was in prime yet he improved specific area for a specific opponent.
Same in real world where UFC fighters in his prime had to level up his wrestling skills for specific opponent , or world champion boxer who had to use tactic to develop his stamina further in order to carry out special plan against opponent.
Football player forward in his prime years . There is a situation where his team changes coach who follows different tactics so said player develops his defensive capabilites even further . Not to mention when a still in his prime changes his role developing certain skills even further.
Being in prime still leaves room for further development in certain areas.
Roger was in his prime at GV when he was 39 its not like he gained Devil fruit later that would require further development of his DF skills / powers.
Jinbei bounty was increased not his power , he simply had actual screentime to demonstrate his powers.
Brook got stronger because his devil fruit powers become active after he dies .
Blackbeard is growing in strength because he recently gained his devil fruits so controlling them takes time.
Nico Robin is 30 now so her becoming stronger after timeskip is perfectly understandable.
Same in real world where UFC fighters in his prime had to level up his wrestling skills for specific opponent , or world champion boxer who had to use tactic to develop his stamina further in order to carry out special plan against opponent.
Football player forward in his prime years . There is a situation where his team changes coach who follows different tactics so said player develops his defensive capabilites even further . Not to mention when a still in his prime changes his role developing certain skills even further.
Being in prime still leaves room for further development in certain areas.
Roger was in his prime at GV when he was 39 its not like he gained Devil fruit later that would require further development of his DF skills / powers.
Jinbei bounty was increased not his power , he simply had actual screentime to demonstrate his powers.
Brook got stronger because his devil fruit powers become active after he dies .
Blackbeard is growing in strength because he recently gained his devil fruits so controlling them takes time.
Nico Robin is 30 now so her becoming stronger after timeskip is perfectly understandable.
If we take the Harley text literally Imu seems to be only from Joyboy and Davy Jones' era, especially because thats who he is mostly fixated on and when the WG was created.
Nika is far older, and it is likely there is some primordial entity (Earth God?) that either controls Imu or works with him to the point where I dont see the Sun God or the Earth God being above one another.
But they whole history repeating itself/cycle already was apparent with both series years before they reached their endgames. In One Piece its just not shoehorned to the end. We've known at least about Roger and Shanks since the beginning, and Joyboy has been a concept for 15 years already since Fishman Island. It just got more "ancient" with Nika now and possibly the thing that represents Imu thousands of years before.
Nika is far older, and it is likely there is some primordial entity (Earth God?) that either controls Imu or works with him to the point where I dont see the Sun God or the Earth God being above one another.
But they whole history repeating itself/cycle already was apparent with both series years before they reached their endgames. In One Piece its just not shoehorned to the end. We've known at least about Roger and Shanks since the beginning, and Joyboy has been a concept for 15 years already since Fishman Island. It just got more "ancient" with Nika now and possibly the thing that represents Imu thousands of years before.
People of all kind throughout the manga bring up the Roger pirate every single time they are relevant to a discussion. You are acting like it's a Taboo for anyone under 50 to mention them or something??? Heck village boy Usopp from the east blue is more familiar with Rayleigh than he is with many powerful active pirates. If Sakazuki knew about the 1 year voyage or deemed it the most important episode of Oden's career as a pirate, he would have brought it up instead or at least mentioned it alongside his WB adventures. That's especially true with the context of the discussion since they were reviewing the formation of an alliance gunning for the One Piece that just so happened to form in the country where the mysterious guy who joined Roger on his final voyage is from.
Sakazuki didn't pick up on that, either because he didn't know or because Oden's legacy as a WB pirate is so much more important from outsiders' point of view.
Sakazuki didn't pick up on that, either because he didn't know or because Oden's legacy as a WB pirate is so much more important from outsiders' point of view.
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