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Reading Volume 113 coz I'd like to re-read the Harald flashback and this Conquerors's Haki panel came up and I kinda have a few thoughts on it so I'll share.
First on Gaban's initial statement
```
Gaban: It seems like there's more than one of you that posseses Conqueror's Haki
```
Like English fans, since this chapter, Japanese fans have also been discussing this phrasing saying that if it was just Zoro Gaban would've phrased the line differently which is true but I think both fanbases over focusing on that phrase and missing more important context which serves as more conclusive evidence which is Gaban's incredible CoO prowess which has been emphasized time and time again this arc.
If Gaban was only referring to Zoro, he won't have phrased in a way that seems that he's only just been able to confirm his suspision and this is proven by Luffy's reaction to Zoro not realising that he has it here.
```
What!? You didn't know! It's literally pouring out of you!!
````
Luffy is basically saying that it is bloody obvious so there is no ambiguity what so ever about Zoro having CoC in which case, wouldn't that make Gaban's statement odd if he's referring to Zoro here. Keep in mind that he's met Zoro prior to this incident together with Luffy and Nami in the castle so there's no way he didn't realise it after spending that amount of time with them so he's clealry referring to Sanji here.
Another thing that I think we've missed here is Sanji's comment as well which is probably being played off as a joke but again like Gaban, Sanji Observation Haki is very keen and he's kinda opposite to Zoro in the sense that he's a lot quicker on the uptake, so this statement I think is being taken as a joke but! Sanji himself might realise that he has it. I mean we've been told since Wano via Kaido that characters can sense conqueror's haki even without it being used. So it's possible that Sanji being so keen with observation Haki vaguely realizes it in himself. It's a good contrast btw Zoro and Sanji being, Zoro who's actually manifested it with it literally pouring out of him is a little slow to realise where as Sanji who hasn't really manifested it yet can somewhat feel it in himself.
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It's me right!?
```
```
I knew it! No way I'm gonna let that marimo and Jinbe keep stealing my stock...
```
Now before we go wild lol there's also one addtional thing I want to point out which is what Gaban stated after that and the reason why he singled out Zoro in particular. I will also add Gaban's statement to Luffy and Loki's statement to Gaban which happened before it as it's related to the point I'd like to make.
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Gaban: You! Swordman over there! Seems like your body is already accustomed to it
```
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Really...I'm lost for words. Haki is a power you can only fully make the most of when you are concious of it
````
ガバンお前の話で腑に落ちた
俺は自分の力を言語化できててなかった
Loki: Gaban, thanks to your talk I understand wholehearteadly now
Loki: Until now I've been unable to put my own ability into words
```
```
おい...”麦わらのルフィ”
覇王色の使え方肝にめんじろ...
あいつらは決して不死身はない...！！
Gaban: Hey..."Strawhat Luffy"
Gaban: Don't just use it! Understand how to use Conqueror's Haki!
```
Looking at the above there is a lot of emphasis on acclimatization and utlitiy of conqueror's Haki so unlike Sanji for example who isn't yet acclamatized to conqueror's haki there is focus on Zoro because not only is his body already used to it even if he's a dumbass that is yet to even realise it (basically a natural at it) he's quite literally blessed with it to the point where it is overflowing out of him so he can already use it unlike Sanji for instance who still hasn't manifested it. To be able to fight the immortals having CoC alone is not enough, you have to first be acclimatized to it and also understand how to utllize it properly. Zoro atm can probably fight immortals off the bat but he's a bit to dim to realize it hence Gaban's statement here:
```
Are you really trying to support your Yonko captain in that wishy washy state!?
```
Given the above context Sanji's statement here to Gaban and the fact that he was calm after whatever conversation they had becomes pretty predictable
```
Sanji: Hey old man! what about me!?
```
Gaban's hidden words: I can sense that you posses it, but seems like you're not able to manifest it yet.
So question is does Sanji manifest it and if he does will he able to properly utilize it to hurt immortals?
Given there's focus on first "acclmatization" and then "proper utlitly", imo it's a bit hard to tell.
What I will say though is that this whole Conqueror's conversation about only being able to properly utilize an ability by understanding it also applies to Sanji with regards to "PoL". Doesn't seem like Sanji really understands what PoL really is so he I reckon he will also get a proper understanding of it this arc.
Now I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but over focusing on CoC in comparison to Zoro imo is a losing battle given the focus being put on Zoro's CoC and the sheer volume he seems to have. All indications are that Zoro is a natural at CoC and that he has a lot of it volume wise to boot so even if he is not especially deft at using it, he will 100% be able to utilize the method Roger and Garp used against Rocks except that unlike them he will probably not be down and out simply by overusing it so again Sanji having CoC is great but personally I'd rather a proper development route with PoL rather than CoC.
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どうやらは覇王色があるのは一人じゃなさそうだな
Gaban: It seems like there's more than one of you that posseses Conqueror's Haki
俺か！？
Sanji: It's me right!?
やっぱりそんな気がしていた
このままマリモやジンベに株を奪われ続く
Sanji: I knew it! No way I'm gonna let that marimo and Jinbe keep stealing my stock...
そこの剣士...！！だいぶ体に馴染んでるようだ
Gaban: You! Swordman over there! Seems like your body is already accustomed to it
！？
Zoro: !?
俺ア「覇王色」を使えのか？
Zoro: Huh? I can use conqueror's Haki?
ええ！？お前しらなかったのか！？だだ漏れてんぞ！？
Luffy: What!? You didn't know! It's literally pouring out of you!!
呆れたな覇気を認識してできてこその”力”だ！
Gaban: Really...I'm lost for words. Haki is a power you can only fully make the most of when you are concious of it
お前そんなことで「四皇」の船長を支えていけんのか！？
Gaban: Are you really trying to support your Yonko captain in that wishy washy state!?
おいじじ俺が！？
Sanji: Hey old man! what about me!?```
Gaban: It seems like there's more than one of you that posseses Conqueror's Haki
```
Like English fans, since this chapter, Japanese fans have also been discussing this phrasing saying that if it was just Zoro Gaban would've phrased the line differently which is true but I think both fanbases over focusing on that phrase and missing more important context which serves as more conclusive evidence which is Gaban's incredible CoO prowess which has been emphasized time and time again this arc.
If Gaban was only referring to Zoro, he won't have phrased in a way that seems that he's only just been able to confirm his suspision and this is proven by Luffy's reaction to Zoro not realising that he has it here.
```
What!? You didn't know! It's literally pouring out of you!!
````
Luffy is basically saying that it is bloody obvious so there is no ambiguity what so ever about Zoro having CoC in which case, wouldn't that make Gaban's statement odd if he's referring to Zoro here. Keep in mind that he's met Zoro prior to this incident together with Luffy and Nami in the castle so there's no way he didn't realise it after spending that amount of time with them so he's clealry referring to Sanji here.
Another thing that I think we've missed here is Sanji's comment as well which is probably being played off as a joke but again like Gaban, Sanji Observation Haki is very keen and he's kinda opposite to Zoro in the sense that he's a lot quicker on the uptake, so this statement I think is being taken as a joke but! Sanji himself might realise that he has it. I mean we've been told since Wano via Kaido that characters can sense conqueror's haki even without it being used. So it's possible that Sanji being so keen with observation Haki vaguely realizes it in himself. It's a good contrast btw Zoro and Sanji being, Zoro who's actually manifested it with it literally pouring out of him is a little slow to realise where as Sanji who hasn't really manifested it yet can somewhat feel it in himself.
```
It's me right!?
```
```
I knew it! No way I'm gonna let that marimo and Jinbe keep stealing my stock...
```
Now before we go wild lol there's also one addtional thing I want to point out which is what Gaban stated after that and the reason why he singled out Zoro in particular. I will also add Gaban's statement to Luffy and Loki's statement to Gaban which happened before it as it's related to the point I'd like to make.
```
Gaban: You! Swordman over there! Seems like your body is already accustomed to it
```
````
Really...I'm lost for words. Haki is a power you can only fully make the most of when you are concious of it
````
ガバンお前の話で腑に落ちた
俺は自分の力を言語化できててなかった
Loki: Gaban, thanks to your talk I understand wholehearteadly now
Loki: Until now I've been unable to put my own ability into words
```
```
おい...”麦わらのルフィ”
覇王色の使え方肝にめんじろ...
あいつらは決して不死身はない...！！
Gaban: Hey..."Strawhat Luffy"
Gaban: Don't just use it! Understand how to use Conqueror's Haki!
```
Looking at the above there is a lot of emphasis on acclimatization and utlitiy of conqueror's Haki so unlike Sanji for example who isn't yet acclamatized to conqueror's haki there is focus on Zoro because not only is his body already used to it even if he's a dumbass that is yet to even realise it (basically a natural at it) he's quite literally blessed with it to the point where it is overflowing out of him so he can already use it unlike Sanji for instance who still hasn't manifested it. To be able to fight the immortals having CoC alone is not enough, you have to first be acclimatized to it and also understand how to utllize it properly. Zoro atm can probably fight immortals off the bat but he's a bit to dim to realize it hence Gaban's statement here:
```
Are you really trying to support your Yonko captain in that wishy washy state!?
```
Given the above context Sanji's statement here to Gaban and the fact that he was calm after whatever conversation they had becomes pretty predictable
```
Sanji: Hey old man! what about me!?
```
Gaban's hidden words: I can sense that you posses it, but seems like you're not able to manifest it yet.
So question is does Sanji manifest it and if he does will he able to properly utilize it to hurt immortals?
Given there's focus on first "acclmatization" and then "proper utlitly", imo it's a bit hard to tell.
What I will say though is that this whole Conqueror's conversation about only being able to properly utilize an ability by understanding it also applies to Sanji with regards to "PoL". Doesn't seem like Sanji really understands what PoL really is so he I reckon he will also get a proper understanding of it this arc.
Now I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but over focusing on CoC in comparison to Zoro imo is a losing battle given the focus being put on Zoro's CoC and the sheer volume he seems to have. All indications are that Zoro is a natural at CoC and that he has a lot of it volume wise to boot so even if he is not especially deft at using it, he will 100% be able to utilize the method Roger and Garp used against Rocks except that unlike them he will probably not be down and out simply by overusing it so again Sanji having CoC is great but personally I'd rather a proper development route with PoL rather than CoC.
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I’ve always said Sanji realizing he has it would make a ton of sense given his personality
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
He really was quite calm, if Gaban had only bad news for him I'd expect Sanji to act differently.
I'm not a fan of a power tailored for Sanji just so he can hurt immortals. If ACoC is CL²⁴oda's way to deal with those opponent, Sanji should get it. PoL can be CoC and at the same time it can grant him unique powers due to his buccaneer, lunarian or simply manipulated-by-Sora lineage factor
I'm not a fan of a power tailored for Sanji just so he can hurt immortals. If ACoC is CL²⁴oda's way to deal with those opponent, Sanji should get it. PoL can be CoC and at the same time it can grant him unique powers due to his buccaneer, lunarian or simply manipulated-by-Sora lineage factor
I’ve always said Sanji realizing he has it would make a ton of sense given his personality
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
I also got the feeling that Gyaban was mostly focused on Zoro because he was already using CoC and it was more advantagious to help Zoro in that moment, making him realize what he can do, instead of focusing on Sanji which should have it but as a "locked" ability in a sense.
So the reasoning of Gyaban is about efficiency. Luffy can use CoC, Loki should too (taking in consideration of his words), Gyaban of course can use it and Zoro too. So even if the situation is really dangerous, four strong conqueror haki user are probably enough. Why concentrating on Sanji who should have it but probably requires too much time to getting used to it.
The fact that Gyaban does not know is that Sanji is a pretty smart guy and really skilled. He has that genius level instinct combat wise. So like a lot of people think, Gyaban should have said some hint to the cook, just to get him realize. Probably Gyaban does not know that Sanji will start to utilize Conqueror's haki and it will be a shock for everyone.
So the reasoning of Gyaban is about efficiency. Luffy can use CoC, Loki should too (taking in consideration of his words), Gyaban of course can use it and Zoro too. So even if the situation is really dangerous, four strong conqueror haki user are probably enough. Why concentrating on Sanji who should have it but probably requires too much time to getting used to it.
The fact that Gyaban does not know is that Sanji is a pretty smart guy and really skilled. He has that genius level instinct combat wise. So like a lot of people think, Gyaban should have said some hint to the cook, just to get him realize. Probably Gyaban does not know that Sanji will start to utilize Conqueror's haki and it will be a shock for everyone.
Sanji doesn’t need a teacher. He’s almost never been directly taught anything
Even his training during the timeskip was different from Luffy and Zoro’s
They had 2 living legends walking them through the basics of haki step by step. Sanji learned through combat and experience
He won’t need to be taught the technique either. He’ll feel it out
And you can’t claim it’s “impossible” given the fact that we see Roger using ACoC before his prime and he hadn’t been to Wano yet. Who taught him? Who taught Garp? Who taught Rocks?
It’s clearly something that you can learn on your own given enough time and talent just like Future Sight
Even his training during the timeskip was different from Luffy and Zoro’s
They had 2 living legends walking them through the basics of haki step by step. Sanji learned through combat and experience
He won’t need to be taught the technique either. He’ll feel it out
And you can’t claim it’s “impossible” given the fact that we see Roger using ACoC before his prime and he hadn’t been to Wano yet. Who taught him? Who taught Garp? Who taught Rocks?
It’s clearly something that you can learn on your own given enough time and talent just like Future Sight
I’ve always said Sanji realizing he has it would make a ton of sense given his personality
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
The flowing haki is a technique
Zoro can only use acoc cause he has been taught how to flow his haki
Same with luffy.
They were all taught. Or else they wouldnt be able to coat their weapons with haki.
Flowing haki isnt a get angry buff.
I’ve always said Sanji realizing he has it would make a ton of sense given his personality
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
He’s always been a perceptive guy (hence his affinity for observation haki) and he seems more self aware than most characters
Just look at his reaction to Luffy using conqueror’s haki compared to the rest of the Strawhats
“I knew he had it in him”
Luffy and Zoro typically feel their way through things with instinct while Sanji’s more of the analytical type. Even looking at his creation of Ifrit Jambe it happened in a way that fits his character perfectly
He took inventory, went through his arsenal, and combined everything at his disposal to form it
That’s why I think when he actually unlocks CoC the advanced form/infusion will come to him a lot easier than Luffy or Zoro. Because once you’ve officially awakened CoC the only thing left is to figure out how to utilize it
That’s a pretty fair analysis tbh ^^
At this point I’m already beyond the sticking point of whether Sanji will get CoC or not and tbf Gaban seems to have thought all of the lads in the underworld the proper utilization of CoC so Sanji should already understand it in theory 🤔
So main issue is manifesting it I guess. I wonder if there’s a trick for manifesting it like super saiyan in dbz kinda like Caulifa did in dragon ball super
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So main issue is manifesting it I guess. I wonder if there’s a trick for manifesting it like super saiyan in dbz kinda like Caulifa did in dragon ball super .
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It seems he will only be able to use CoC if his "stealth black" persona is perfectly aligned with Black Leg's persona, he will have to find balance between them.
It will be a perfect explanation for why didn't Sanji showed CoC even in Wano, because Judge's genes have been trying to take over his mind his whole life.
🤔
That’s a pretty fair analysis tbh ^^
At this point I’m already beyond the sticking point of whether Sanji will get CoC or not and tbf Gaban seems to have thought all of the lads in the underworld the proper utilization of CoC so Sanji should already understand it in theory 🤔
So main issue is manifesting it I guess. I wonder if there’s a trick for manifesting it like super saiyan in dbz kinda like Caulifa did in dragon ball super.
That’s a pretty fair analysis tbh ^^
At this point I’m already beyond the sticking point of whether Sanji will get CoC or not and tbf Gaban seems to have thought all of the lads in the underworld the proper utilization of CoC so Sanji should already understand it in theory 🤔
So main issue is manifesting it I guess. I wonder if there’s a trick for manifesting it like super saiyan in dbz kinda like Caulifa did in dragon ball super
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Maybe for Sanji is a tool, or something like that. Something that can speed up the process.
But knowing Oda, Sanji will just decide to get it over and unlock it with sheer strength of will. It is fitting, somehow. It's like a gag, but something that for Sanji feels like it could also work. He's the man of the impossible feat of shattering a laser without effort. So why not?
