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For the 213819283th time, who do you think it's Sanji's BBP matchup?


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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
“They all would have someone to teach them” Like who?

Who taught Roger/Rayleigh/Gaban?
Tf you mean who taught them like we gonna know specifics of what we havent been shown.
We go off what we know
And what we know is you need to be taught it
Thats why luffy just didnt learn it like fs
BECAUSE HE NEEDED TO BE TAUGHT by hyou.
Haki in general HE WAS TAUGHT by ray
You didn't prove anything, you basically just "trust me bro"'d him. :milaugh:

And PoL could be a factor too. Who's to say it can't be a shortcut to getting CoC infusion?
Load of nonsense here. Address the actual points.
 
Tf you mean who taught them like we gonna know specifics of what we havent been shown.
We go off what we know
And what we know is you need to be taught it
Thats why luffy just didnt learn it like fs
BECAUSE HE NEEDED TO BE TAUGHT by hyou.
Haki in general HE WAS TAUGHT by ray
So your only evidence is “uhhhh it happened for them too, just entirely offscreen and we’ll never learn about it”

So no evidence at all, really

The sample size is just too small for you to claim it’s a fact

“Well Luffy and Zoro (2 people) needed to be taught so that must mean everyone else needs to be taught too”

We go off what we know
And what we know is you need to be taught it
Right, except we don’t actually know anything

It’s never been stated anywhere inside or outside of the story that you need to be taught it. If that were the case then how did the first “ryou” user learn how to flow their haki? Who taught them?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
So your only evidence is “uhhhh it happened for them too, just entirely offscreen and we’ll never learn about it”

So no evidence at all, really

The sample size is just too small for you to claim it’s a fact

“Well Luffy and Zoro (2 people) needed to be taught so that must mean everyone else needs to be taught too”



Right, except we don’t actually know anything

It’s never been stated anywhere inside or outside of the story that you need to be taught it. If that were the case then how did the first “ryou” user learn how to flow their haki? Who taught them?
Evidence is luffy zoro all marines all of wano
Then even roger and garp talk about mechanics of haki not just get angry and power up.
 
Tf you mean who taught them like we gonna know specifics of what we havent been shown.
We go off what we know
And what we know is you need to be taught it
Thats why luffy just didnt learn it like fs
BECAUSE HE NEEDED TO BE TAUGHT by hyou.
Haki in general HE WAS TAUGHT by ray

Load of nonsense here. Address the actual points.
We go off by what we know, yet you're making an assumption about something we don't know. It was never said ACoA/ACoC needed to be taught, Hyogoro literally said haki bloomed in battles. And you ignored the point about Sanji learning CoO and CoA on his own while Luffy and Zoro had teachers.

Haki is taught by a teacher when it's convenient for Oda to expand on the concept and introduce new techniques, that's all. It's the easiest way to explain them to readers.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
We go off by what we know, yet you're making an assumption about something we don't know. It was never said ACoA/ACoC needed to be taught, Hyogoro literally said haki bloomed in battles. And you ignored the point about Sanji learning CoO and CoA on his own while Luffy and Zoro had teachers.

Haki is taught by a teacher when it's convenient for Oda to expand on the concept and introduce new techniques, that's all. It's the easiest way to explain them to readers.
Haki strength can grow in battle
Haki techniques especially coa related cannot.
3 people unlocked haki pre skip
Luffy (coc)
Coby (coo)
Zoro (coa)

2 of them were the standard anger/pushed to the limit power up

But zoros was ONLY due to him having WANO RYOU teachings as a kid from koshiro.

Ryou is an application of coa.

We dont know how sanji got haki (and hes only got the basics)
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
We go off by what we know, yet you're making an assumption about something we don't know. It was never said ACoA/ACoC needed to be taught, Hyogoro literally said haki bloomed in battles. And you ignored the point about Sanji learning CoO and CoA on his own while Luffy and Zoro had teachers.

Haki is taught by a teacher when it's convenient for Oda to expand on the concept and introduce new techniques, that's all. It's the easiest way to explain them to readers.
Haki strength can grow in battle
Haki techniques especially coa related cannot.
3 people unlocked haki pre skip
Luffy (coc)
Coby (coo)
Zoro (coa)

2 of them were the standard anger/pushed to the limit power up

But zoros was ONLY due to him having WANO RYOU teachings as a kid from koshiro.

Ryou is an application of coa.

We dont know how sanji got haki (and hes only got the basics)
So she can learn stuff by herself from fighting an seeing someone else do it, but Sanji can't?
:funky::funky::funky::funky:
What acoc user is sanji gonna fight ?

And no luffy was hit by acoc and only DUE TO HYOUS TEACHINGS did he realise what it was.
 
Someone tell this guy that Zeff is Sanji's only mentor bro

Ivankov wasn't a teacher to Sanji like Rayleigh and Mihawk were to Luffy and Zoro, he had no flashback of Ivankov teaching him like the others had.. Sanji is his own teacher, he is Black Leg Sanji from the get go. He even created the Black Leg style which parallels Red Leg Zeff's style and he will keep doing that its that simple
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Imagine being a Sanji fan today
Feels like a reverse psychology tactic because i can't see how that is bad thing
:shocked:
 
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Haki is a messy system, but y'all make it more complicated than it needs to be. Paying attention helps.

Right panel - Emission
Left panel - Internal Destruction


More Emission examples for illustrative effect.





Luffy is the only Strawhat with advanced Armament. He can use Emission and Internal Destruction.




Zoro is the only other Strawhat with an advanced Haki ability. Conqueror's Haki Infusion is the only advanced technique he knows. I expect that will change in the near future.




Yamato seems to know at Infusion but quite possibly also Emission.




To date, Luffy and Rayleigh are the only confirmed users of Internal Destruction, but neither has used it in actual combat. I personally suspect Kaidou used it on Luffy, and believe Kamusari and techniques like it could quite possible involve it as well. I'd be shocked if types like Garp and Sengoku couldn't use it.
 
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I simply don't understand why a character can't learn by himself to use conqueror's haki. I don't even think Mihawk explained to Zoro at all.

From the beginning we know that, actually, you can't even train specifically your conqueror's haki. This let us suggest that the wielder of this type of haki should get stronger both phisically and mentally to see a power up in conqueror's haki ability. So If you can't train it, but it is just deep within you, I don't know how some "master" can train effectively his "disciple" in using king's haki. The one thing the "master" can do is just explain the principle but that's it. It is no real training.

We saw Garp and Kuzan train both their strength and endurance (body) and their proficiency in armament haki while punching the marine boats. This training will strengthen their body and their haki and accordingly conqueror's haki (for Garp obviously, at least for now). So if you can't train conqueror's haki, I don't think you need a master to unlock that. Simple as that.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I simply don't understand why a character can't learn by himself to use conqueror's haki. I don't even think Mihawk explained to Zoro at all.

From the beginning we know that, actually, you can't even train specifically your conqueror's haki. This let us suggest that the wielder of this type of haki should get stronger both phisically and mentally to see a power up in conqueror's haki ability. So If you can't train it, but it is just deep within you, I don't know how some "master" can train effectively his "disciple" in using king's haki. The one thing the "master" can do is just explain the principle but that's it. It is no real training.

We saw Garp and Kuzan train both their strength and endurance (body) and their proficiency in armament haki while punching the marine boats. This training will strengthen their body and their haki and accordingly conqueror's haki (for Garp obviously, at least for now). So if you can't train conqueror's haki, I don't think you need a master to unlock that. Simple as that.
No one is talking about unlocking coc

But using the ability to flow haki has only eber been shown to be taught.
 
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