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[Welkin]

Another optimist I see lol.

Knights of God literally can teleport. I am not confident on any fact on who's here before the flashback and what Imu will do when it ends. For all we know Imu leaves and calls back a group of them (because something something Brook's music = power of friendship and Gunko breaks free from his control, who knows.
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Well that's why I said this lol

Unless Oda introduces more Holy Knights

I've acknowledged the possibility that the arc could be longer than initially predicted if more Holy Knights show up

If that doesnt convince you, just look at Egghead. Its nearly 80 chapters. Kuma's flashback ended and it took nearly 25 chapters for the group to escape with no ACTUAL fights in that arc lol

Because of Vegapunk's speech + 4 other Gorosei showing up. Of course it would take that long for it to finish

The Strawhats had to deal with 5 Gorosei and Zoro was still fighting Lucci. Then to top it all off we had to get through Vegapunk's speech that stretched out across 10 ish chapters

WCI had literally 1 fight and it was 80 chapters long another escape arc like Egghead.

Comparing WCI to Egghead or Elbaf is the definition of apples to oranges man cmon

WCI which dealt with Sanji's internal conflict/his past for a chunk of it, another chunk was dedicated to Luffy and the gang simply reaching Sanji's location/exploring the WCI chateau including Luffy vs Cracker (full fight 1), planning Big Mom's assassination, the actual wedding, then the actual escape section including Luffy vs Katakuri (full fight 2)

Without mentioning Brook getting his own side mission which led to the Strawhats obtaining their 2nd poneglyph

Elbaf isn't nearly this complex. It's literally get in -> beat the Holy Knights/Imu -> save the children -> post arc -> the end. If Oda doesn't throw any loops in there it shouldn't be very long at all

Elbaf is neither of those things. The threat needs to be removed and the island saved. That means fights need to be complete like Wano. Of course it wont be Wano length, but we are barely 40 chapters into Elbaf and almost ALWAYS the fight portion of an arc last longer than the initial 1st 3rd or Half.

And the fights in Wano weren't actually that long. Nobody seems to remember that each fight really only got 1-2 dedicated chapters, maybe 3 before their completion

The problem a lot of people have with Onigashima is the lackluster pacing and padding due to 1000 characters "needing" screentime. There are no chapters to dedicate to Tama riding Komachiyo with Nami/Usopp shooting the Kibi Dango into the mouths of gifters, there's no Raizo and Fukurokuju to dedicate almost entire chapters to, there's no Hiyori in the corner spending half a chapter setting up her plot to kill Orochi. We aren't wasting 5 chapters on Zoro chasing after Apoo before even getting to the roof (let alone confronting his actual final matchup)

When the fights actually started (even with all of the padding) they didn't last that long. Zoro and Sanji started their fights with King and Queen in 1022 and they were both over by 1035. Mind you, that's with Yamato, Law/Kidd, and Killer getting their own chapters in between with their matchups

Having less characters that Oda can waste time on automatically makes Elbaf's climax/conclusion significantly shorter than other arcs you've listed

So again, even if its just ImuGunko, a few Knights and a few DR Giants, it still will take 40+ chapters....trust me.

If it's just the threats we have currently and no other forces pull up there's no way it's taking over 40 chapters. You'd have to explain how Oda could magically stretch a few matchups into a 40+ chapter long battle

Again, you cannot compare this to most prior arcs especially not Wano. It's like the perfect example of something dragging because there are too many characters involved

Neko/Inu vs Jack/Peros, Izo fighting off CP0, Raizo vs Fukurokuju, Kanjuro shenanigans, Hiyori vs Orochi, Jinbei the firefighter (chunk of a chapter dedicated to this), Carrot and Wanda vs Perospero, Killer vs Hawkins, Big Mom vs Ulti/Page One, Sanji running around carrying Zoro, Luffy spending 10 chapters just running to the roof to pad chapters for 1000

And that's just off the top of my head I know for a fact I'm missing more

Theres also a lot of unanswered revelations like Heaven Realm and the Harley Text that Oda hasnt gotten around to.

The Heaven Realm might be addressed but you've been reading One Piece long enough to know there's a 5% chance we'll get an explanation for the Harley in the same arc it's revealed in. We likely won't fully understand the meaning of it until the inevitable Void Century flashback or the Final War itself

Oda always drags these big mysteries and waits to dig into them later

And Im not confident either that this series will end in 7 years either lol, not given whats left.


Edit: We WILL be talking about Elbaf still at this point next year lol, guaranteed.

Hey I said we'd be done with Elbaf by the end of 2026 so maybe we will be. We still have a chapter left this year after all

7 years is definitely enough time tbh. Just under 250 chapters is quite a lot

Egghead was only 68 chapters long, we're already 44 chapters into Elbaf and we've covered this much ground (to the point where people are worried that Oda's rushing), and the time dilation is also clearly being used to get the major players where they need to be as fast as humanly possible

7 years is very doable

 

[Paperchampion23]

Well that's why I said this lol



I've acknowledged the possibility that the arc could be longer than initially predicted if more Holy Knights show up



Because of Vegapunk's speech + 4 other Gorosei showing up. Of course it would take that long for it to finish

The Strawhats had to deal with 5 Gorosei and Zoro was still fighting Lucci. Then to top it all off we had to get through Vegapunk's speech that stretched out across 10 ish chapters



Comparing WCI to Egghead or Elbaf is the definition of apples to oranges man cmon

WCI which dealt with Sanji's internal conflict/his past for a chunk of it, another chunk was dedicated to Luffy and the gang simply reaching Sanji's location/exploring the WCI chateau including Luffy vs Cracker (full fight 1), planning Big Mom's assassination, the actual wedding, then the actual escape section including Luffy vs Katakuri (full fight 2)

Without mentioning Brook getting his own side mission which led to the Strawhats obtaining their 2nd poneglyph

Elbaf isn't nearly this complex. It's literally get in -> beat the Holy Knights/Imu -> save the children -> post arc -> the end. If Oda doesn't throw any loops in there it shouldn't be very long at all




And the fights in Wano weren't actually that long. Nobody seems to remember that each fight really only got 1-2 dedicated chapters, maybe 3 before their completion

The problem a lot of people have with Onigashima is the lackluster pacing and padding due to 1000 characters "needing" screentime. There are no chapters to dedicate to Tama riding Komachiyo with Nami/Usopp shooting the Kibi Dango into the mouths of gifters, there's no Raizo and Fukurokuju to dedicate almost entire chapters to, there's no Hiyori in the corner spending half a chapter setting up her plot to kill Orochi. We aren't wasting 5 chapters on Zoro chasing after Apoo before even getting to the roof (let alone confronting his actual final matchup)

When the fights actually started (even with all of the padding) they didn't last that long. Zoro and Sanji started their fights with King and Queen in 1022 and they were both over by 1035. Mind you, that's with Yamato, Law/Kidd, and Killer getting their own chapters in between with their matchups

Having less characters that Oda can waste time on automatically makes Elbaf's climax/conclusion significantly shorter than other arcs you've listed



If it's just the threats we have currently and no other forces pull up there's no way it's taking over 40 chapters. You'd have to explain how Oda could magically stretch a few matchups into a 40+ chapter long battle

Again, you cannot compare this to most prior arcs especially not Wano. It's like the perfect example of something dragging because there are too many characters involved

Neko/Inu vs Jack/Peros, Izo fighting off CP0, Raizo vs Fukurokuju, Kanjuro shenanigans, Hiyori vs Orochi, Jinbei the firefighter (chunk of a chapter dedicated to this), Carrot and Wanda vs Perospero, Killer vs Hawkins, Big Mom vs Ulti/Page One, Sanji running around carrying Zoro, Luffy spending 10 chapters just running to the roof to pad chapters for 1000

And that's just off the top of my head I know for a fact I'm missing more



The Heaven Realm might be addressed but you've been reading One Piece long enough to know there's a 5% chance we'll get an explanation for the Harley in the same arc it's revealed in. We likely won't fully understand the meaning of it until the inevitable Void Century flashback or the Final War itself

Oda always drags these big mysteries and waits to dig into them later




Hey I said we'd be done with Elbaf by the end of 2026 so maybe we will be. We still have a chapter left this year after all

7 years is definitely enough time tbh. Just under 250 chapters is quite a lot

Egghead was only 68 chapters long, we're already 44 chapters into Elbaf and we've covered this much ground (to the point where people are worried that Oda's rushing), and the time dilation is also clearly being used to get the major players where they need to be as fast as humanly possible

7 years is very doable

I get what you are saying, but Im just warning you as someone who has been reading this series from Water 7 onward, the only "immaculately paced" arcs existed pre-Time Skip, with the exception of Zou (who had zero antagonists).

Again, Egghead being nearly 70 chapters without direct fights is precicely the point Im making. Call it apples to oranges on arc comparison, but it doesnt change the fact that 2 arcs where the crew is "running" ended up being 80 and 70 chapters respectively. The last 2 arcs where the crew directly resolves said island conflict and doesnt run, are 102 chapters and ~148 chapters respectively. Elbaf is already falling into the latter territory and I still feel like we are lowballing it at 80 chapters lol.


And no, Im not saying I expect mysteries to be entirely addressed. But normally Oda lays up on mysteries he sets up in the same arc. I.e. Opening Wano's borders meant unleashing Pluton, but we are no closer to learning what Pluton is. We may not get full revelations on Harleu, but I wouldnt be shocked if we know who all the Gods are in the least by the end of Elbaf.


And 7 years is roughy 240 chapters. It "can" happen if we jump straight into a war involving everyone immediately after Elbaf, i just highly doubt it given how long it took him to even get to and set up Wano, then spent a 140 chapters completing it. That alone took 10 years and nearly 400 chapters. We are dealing with 10x the number of characters here.

Again, I only think the series is lasting for another 300-350. You and I arent far off on estimates. I just dont think he'll finish quickly at all given whats left.

 

[pg13]

I aint even confident in that estimate. Thats 150-200 chapters from this point (of which Elbaf might have another 50 alone), so unless we are expecting a final war that involves everyone (and I mean everyone) before Luffy even hits Laugh Tale, you are basically expecting even that to be shorter than Wano lol.

Trust me, when you see it this way it sticks with you. Im probably the most frequent poster in this thread because Im actually pretty worried of this series either not finishing or being rushed to oblivion

6 years is 3 arcs , maybe 4
Egghead was 2 years, this current arc more than likely will end in 2026. Once this flashback is over This Current Battle could in End in less than 15 Chapters . Remember how Oda does his fights 1-2 chapters of focus. Wano had side characters, Took Oda 51 Chapters to wrap up all of the fights in Onigashima. That was Including Law & Kid Vs Big Mom, Raizo Vs Fukurokuju, Scabbards Vs Kaido, Yamato Vs Kaido, Inu Vs Jack, Neku Vs Perospero, Killer Vs Hawkins, X Drake & Apoo Vs CP0, etc if we take those 3rd party fights out of Wano then those Strawhat fights would’ve taken 20 chapters at best to wrap up.

 

[Paperchampion23]

6 years is 3 arcs , maybe 4
Egghead was 2 years, this current arc more than likely will end in 2026. Once this flashback is over This Current Battle could in End in less than 15 Chapters . Remember how Oda does his fights 1-2 chapters of focus. Wano had side characters, Took Oda 51 Chapters to wrap up all of the fights in Onigashima. That was Including Law & Kid Vs Big Mom, Raizo Vs Fukurokuju, Scabbards Vs Kaido, Yamato Vs Kaido, Inu Vs Jack, Neku Vs Perospero, Killer Vs Hawkins, X Drake & Apoo Vs CP0, etc if we take those 3rd party fights out of Wano then those Strawhat fights would’ve taken 20 chapters at best to wrap up.

In literally every single arc, the actual conflict (not just literal vs chapters), what Oda calls the climax of an arc, takes longer than the initial part of the arc itself. You can do this every time fights or running start in each arc. Then you have to include wrapup.

I shit you not this happens every single time the crew starts to get involved in said island conflict.

- Alabasta is chapters 155-217. Fighting/conflict starts chapter 177, so about 40 of 63 chapters.
- Skypiea is chapters 237-302. The actual war starts around chapter 257. So again, 45 of fighting vs 20 of setup.
- Water 7 (w/Enies Lobby) is chapters 322-441. They board the sea train officially at 365, but they dont arrive at Enies Lobby until 375, so we'll go with that. That means it takes 66 chapters of a total 120 to close out the arc.
- Thriller bark is Chapter 442-489. They start fighting around chapter 460. So 29 of a 47 chapter arc.
- Sabaody, Amazon Lily, Impeld Down and Marineford, structure is unorthodox but you add that string of 110 chapters together (490-597) as one thing, half of it is Marineford and the climax of the timeskip.
- Fishman Island is 598-653 but they dont get to FI until 608. Fighting starts chapter 631. 23 chapters of 45, so half.
- Punk Hazard is 654-699. Shi-no-Kuni (when they start running) starts 675, so again 25 chapters of a 46 chapter arc.
- Dressrosa is 700-802. Birdcage is chapter 745. 58 of 102 chapters is fighting
- WCI is 825-902. Assassination plan is chapter 859. 43 out of 78 chapters of WEEEEEEEDING CAKE
- Wano is 909-1057. They raid Onigashima 974. 83 chapters of fighting and climax of a 147 chapter arc.
- Egghead is 1058-1125. Kizaru invades the island 1090. 36 chapters of 68.

You get the gist. I see absolutely zero reason think Elbaf will be any different. We are 40 chapters in and havent even started the main conflict yet, I am highly doubting it ends before 80 chapters. Every case I gave above is more than half of the arcs chapter count.

 

[moreha9685]

Oda is spending at least 80 chapters on Lodestar, Laugh Tale, and the One Piece. He's been wanting to draw that stretch for 30 years, he won't contain himself in 30-40 chapters.

The Final War won't be shorter than Wano, so 150+ chapters.

Add to that at least 20 more chapters to wrap up Elbaf, 10+ of epilogue for all characters, and however many it needs to connect Elbaf to Lodestar (be it a transitional section a la Mock Town meets Reverie, or an actual Zou-like mini arc) meaning at the least other 10 more chapters.

That's 270 more chapters if we lowball it. But we know how digressive Oda has become.

This shit ain't ending inside 300 chapters. And we're getting around 33-35 chap/year, numbers which are only going to decrease with Oda's age.

Short of a miraculous shortcut, 2030 will still find us reading the series, and so might 2035.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Oda is spending at least 80 chapters on Lodestar, Laugh Tale, and the One Piece. He's been wanting to draw that stretch for 30 years, he won't contain himself in 30-40 chapters.

The Final War won't be shorter than Wano, so 150+ chapters.

Add to that at least 20 more chapters to wrap up Elbaf, 10+ of epilogue for all characters, and however many it needs to connect Elbaf to Lodestar (be it a transitional section a la Mock Town meets Reverie, or an actual Zou-like mini arc) meaning at the least other 10 more chapters.

That's 270 more chapters if we lowball it. But we know how digressive Oda has become.

This shit ain't ending inside 300 chapters. And we're getting around 33-35 chap/year, numbers which are only going to decrease with Oda's age.

Short of a miraculous shortcut, 2030 will still find us reading the series, and so might 2035.

Yep, and even here we'd have to assume Lodestar is even next lol. I think it might be but you never know

Edit: Ah but I saw your transitional thing. Yeah that could be something in between, maybe what leads us to the Burned Scar Man and that end up causing some big conflict on Lodestar.

I still think the "incident" the Grand Fleet is meant to cause is related to the 4th RP fight, whatever that ends up being.

 

[Dragon777]

Oda is spending at least 80 chapters on Lodestar, Laugh Tale, and the One Piece. He's been wanting to draw that stretch for 30 years, he won't contain himself in 30-40 chapters.

The Final War won't be shorter than Wano, so 150+ chapters.

Add to that at least 20 more chapters to wrap up Elbaf, 10+ of epilogue for all characters, and however many it needs to connect Elbaf to Lodestar (be it a transitional section a la Mock Town meets Reverie, or an actual Zou-like mini arc) meaning at the least other 10 more chapters.

That's 270 more chapters if we lowball it. But we know how digressive Oda has become.

This shit ain't ending inside 300 chapters. And we're getting around 33-35 chap/year, numbers which are only going to decrease with Oda's age.

Short of a miraculous shortcut, 2030 will still find us reading the series, and so might 2035.

Exactly.

The only real factor that can change this is Oda's decreasing health.

 

[soupongo]

Another optimist I see lol.

Knights of God literally can teleport. I am not confident on any fact on who's here before the flashback and what Imu will do when it ends. For all we know Imu leaves and calls back a group of them (because something something Brook's music = power of friendship and Gunko breaks free from his control, who knows.
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What would be the point of bringing more Gods knights into the situation,now that Imu has already arrived? We know that the other GK are busy doing stuff because Shamrock went to do something, and Imu arrived for the sake of efficiency. There would really be no point in bringing in any others, who would be of a lesser threat level, especially now, since they don´t even have anyone to fight on Elbaf?

 

[Paperchampion23]

What would be the point of bringing more Gods knights into the situation,now that Imu has already arrived? We know that the other GK are busy doing stuff because Shamrock went to do something, and Imu arrived for the sake of efficiency. There would really be no point in bringing in any others, who would be of a lesser threat level, especially now, since they don´t even have anyone to fight on Elbaf?

You are acting like any of us are clairvoiyant on how the story will be written lol

But fyi, we know Imu is going to be pushed back by bullshit. Right before Gunko was taken over, she was remembering Brook and his music. That absolutely will tie into how they relinquish his control over her

If that happens, then its just as likely for Imu to send Knights back to Elbaf then.

 

[soupongo]

You are acting like any of us are clairvoiyant on how the story will be written lol

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Obviously none of us know what will happen, but we can make reasonable predictions, and I don´t think new Gods Knights arriving on Elbaf would really make sense?

But fyi, we know Imu is going to be pushed back by bullshit. Right before Gunko was taken over, she was remembering Brook and his music. That absolutely will tie into how they relinquish his control over her

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This would just be the climax of the arc then? Luffy isn´t going to kill Imu at this point at least, and pretty much every arc just ends with the main boss being sent away. Gunko and the giants would be saved, while Imu and the Gods knights are forced to deal with the situation in Mariejois by themselves. Why would Oda introduce brand new characters who offer a lesser threat compared to Imu as the climax of the arc? Mind you, the entire flashback and mural in this arc has been about hyping up Imu, not the Gods knights. Reasonably, if they were going to have been sent by Imu, they would have come with Sommers and KIllingham.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Obviously none of us know what will happen, but we can make reasonable predictions, and I don´t think new Gods Knights arriving on Elbaf would really make sense?

This would just be the climax of the arc then? Luffy isn´t going to kill Imu at this point at least, and pretty much every arc just ends with the main boss being sent away. Gunko and the giants would be saved, while Imu and the Gods knights are forced to deal with the situation in Mariejois by themselves. Why would Oda introduce brand new characters who offer a lesser threat compared to Imu as the climax of the arc? Mind you, the entire flashback and mural in this arc has been about hyping up Imu, not the Gods knights. Reasonably, if they were going to have been sent by Imu, they would have come with Sommers and KIllingham.

Because pushing back Imu achieves virtually nothing? It resolves literally no actual arc villain. We have no idea whats going on in Mariejoa, but to act like people who teleport cant teleport back to Elbaf given whatver outside event occurs.

Anyway, i never said I was expecting the full troupe, but Shamrock is heavily tied to this arc and I do actually expect him to return as a result.