Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[mmd]

Young rocks low diff ladmiral
Rocks~Harald
Loki>> hk Harald
Do you know which group would get the biggest L in history if Shanks fought Loki on equal terms?
Yonko fans should hope for Shanks to end this debate once and for all.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

the pk literally ducked meme lmao

meanwhile Law stood up to meme and fucked her up

so by these clowns' logic, Law is a conqueror while Dodger isn't

Some fighters aren't worth the efforts, BM is that. Not that i disagree with you on Law.

 

[Zemlya]

Woki @DarkestKnightofSpoilers @Tyki_Mikk

If he turns out anything like this then kaido is just “we have Loki at home”

 

[Boiroy]

Holyshit
Are you saying that
Yoru can low diff a Yonko vs ragnir

 

[Rootbeer]

I don't know how many times people are gonna fall for "X character is next nakama" trap, it became a meme at this point. Like they get fooled literally in every single arc, with every single developed character.

Loki being depicted as an ally on the prophetic fresco isn't a big enough clue that he's gonna be... well, an ally?

Tell me Maffey is not Yamato's fight..

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

Had a Christmas feast but I'm still STARVING because no scans

 

[AER15]

Sometimes I randomly remember that post-GV Garp had to train to beat Don Chinjao

 

[mmd]

Sometimes I randomly remember that post-GV Garp had to train to beat Don Chinjao

When you have to fight a stronger opponent than Roger, you have to train well.

 

[Royal Kick]

Tell me Maffey is not Yamato's fight..

Why would she need to be part of the crew to face an HK? Did Inuarashi join the crew after he defeated Jack?

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

Lowkey Oda confirmed Sanji CoC if you're paying attention

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Lowkey Oda confirmed Sanji CoC if you're paying attention

Also important to see if Ragnir used haki or lightning against Loki. If he didn't, it lowkey confirms that Ragnir doesn't pose lightning power and that Loki is the main source(his Devilfruit) of the lightning power.

 

[Rootbeer]

Why would she need to be part of the crew to face an HK? Did Inuarashi join the crew after he defeated Jack?

That's not the question you should be asking, if She comes back after just 1 arc of intermission, then it's a done deal.. She was already supposed to join..

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

Also important to see if Ragnir used haki or lightning against Loki. If he didn't, it lowkey confirms that Ragnir doesn't pose lightning power and that Loki is the main source(his Devilfruit) of the lightning power.

Why are you acting like you don't know the answer and haven't already seen the chapter?

 

[Soyz]

Holyshit
Are you saying that
Yoru can low diff a Yonko vs ragnir

The only thing impressive about Yoru is how much black paint it can take without rusting

 

[nik87]

Speaking of powerful weapons...
...we come to the conclusion that Enma is a top-tier weapon as well because High tiers cant use it.
And since Zoro "beat" Enma, Zoro is a top tier as well.

When was Yoru called the world’s strongest weapon?

Chapter 51.

Bruh mihawk weak af

Right, Mihawk is weak, it is Yoru that is strong...

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Holy Knight Harald is one of the strongest characters in the series and in his own tier alongside DR Xebec. These two characters are above the likes of even Roger or Newgate, so the notion that Loki who is still growing is outright stronger than him is not a very sensible take imo. Hence why Oda ultimately had Harald drop his guard in order for Loki to kill him. Moreover, we know for a fact that Shanks defeated Loki 6 years ago. Are we going to now elevate Shanks to Imu level coz he beat Loki?
So even whilst acknowledging that Loki is very strong. a degree of common sense has to come into play at some point.

I'm not conviced Loki is strong as some on here are trying to make him out to be coz it just doesn't make a lot of sense logically or narratively. If this was Teach (candidate for EoS anatgonist) we are talking about then fair enuff but Loki is going to be Nika's ally or a nakama at best. Went on a tangent there but strength wise, I will be shocked if he outperforms Luffy this arc and if he's below Luffy then he is not out of reach for Zoro and Sanji imo.


I do think there's a possibity that where he stands in relation to Zoro and Sanji could be ambigious Post-Elbaf but wouldn't really be the first time something like that has happened. We had a simialr situation when Robin first joined for instance plus we could potentially get a Jinbe type situation where Loki goes on his own litte adventure (for instance to revive Gallela) and then joins the SHs at a later point.

With regards to size, that problem could be very easily solved with a special ability of either Loki's DF or Ragnir's or the SHs building a much bigger ship.

Already mentioned this somewhere prior but with the revelation of what happened in Aurust castle 14 years ago, Hadrujin's justification for keeping Loki tied up has gone up in smoke so all that is left is for Loki to acknowledge Luffy as a man worthy to follow. He already has the offer and only thing that stopped Luffy from insisting was Hadrujin's justification.
Don't think Loki is going to remain on Elbaf or rule alongside Hadrujin. At this point, Hadrujin being anything even remotely close to King whislt Loki is on Elbaf is a pipe dream. Mans best bet is advisor lol

It's not only about his fight with Harald in the castle. Everything about him just oozes high top tier energy.
He's an ancient giant with ACoC, possibly Future Sight, the Sauron eyes, a hammer with a Mythical Zoan, his own Mythical Zoan, and he survived a fall similar to Kaido's when he was just a baby.
Even if we ignore what he did against Harald in the castle, we can't ignore the fact that Oda has been giving him a ton of hype ever since his introduction. I don't see him being below someone like Kaido or Big Mom, honestly.
Also, we have no idea how his fight with Shanks went. People still think Kaido defeated Oden fairly when us readers know that's a complete lie. We need to actually SEE the fight before we can say Shanks defeated him and Ragnir fairly.

I don't know what powers would allow him or the ship to change sizes. Doesn't seem like Ragnir can do it, and I don't think the Fenrir or Nidhoggr fruits will let him do that either. And building such a huge ship just for one man seems a little crazy to me.

 

[Dragon777]

Would Loki beat him if Harald didn't regain control though? We need scans for more context

Back then who knows, but back then he was 17.

 

[Royal Kick]

That's not the question you should be asking, if She comes back after just 1 arc of intermission, then it's a done deal.. She was already supposed to join..

One arc of intermission? She wasn't in Egghead, she's not in Elbaf and she likely won't be in Laugh Tale, that's 3 arcs without her. What's the point of her joining the crew during the final war if she never gets to sail the seas with them afterwards?

 

[VoaV]

Also important to see if Ragnir used haki or lightning against Loki. If he didn't, it lowkey confirms that Ragnir doesn't pose lightning power and that Loki is the main source(his Devilfruit) of the lightning power.

Ragnir use lighning when loki has sea stone cuffs...

 

[Boiroy]

After shanks losing to Herald
It was Mihawk who trained him
We got it now
Mihawk wanted someone to surpass him
So shanks went from low top tier to God tier from training with Mihawk
@nik87

Holyshit

Post automatically merged: Friday at 9:12 AM

Mihawk trained two god tier character
Shanks n zoro