Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[Paperchampion23]

It reminded me of Oden vs Kaido
I wish Oda dedicated more pages to Loki vs Harald but with Oda wanting to keep the fruit a mystery still it was unlikely

Fundamentally everything hype worthy is often offscreened initially until its not I guess.

- Ace vs Blackbeard
- Shanks vs Whitebeard
- Shanks vs Kaido
- 90% of the Marineford fights beyond a few moves or Luffy or anything Whitebeard and Ace do because its where they die, its a hype machine arc (not that im complaining)
- Edd War (Roger vs Shiki)
- Shiki vs Garp/Sengoku
- Rocky Port
- Payback War
- Akainu vs Aokiji
- Doflamingo offscreening Smoker
- Kaido offscreening Kid/Hawkins/Killer
- BM's crew offscreening Germa
- Kaido vs BM
- Oden vs Kaido
- Blackbeard vs Law
- Shanks vs Kid sorta since it was a 1 shot lol
- all of God Valley the first time (during Kuma's FB)
- Harald vs Loki

In each case its so Oda preserves the "wonder" on how someone actually fights (good or bad) unless he's trying to showcase them (Aokiji vs Strawhats, Kizaru vs Everyone, Kuma vs Zoro, etc).

Series length wise, i get why its done but if often works to his detriment here...

 

[Bogard]

Loki's words here makes more sense now

> Wasn't able to verbalize his own power(his coc)
> I've experienced killing a HK before(his HK dad)

So seemingly most likely due to the moment, he unleashed his CoC when killing his dad, but didn't realize it at that moment until Gaban's wordings made him verbalize his own power

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

????

Harald fought him seriously while Loki was
transformed and Harald GOT fucked.

You’re saying Harald’s standing there and getting beat up is Harald fighting seriously?

you think Harald is incapable of dodging or blocking attacks?

 

[Crow]

Maybe your hybrid form can hit Marineford Luffy hype

Ever heard of plot armor?
Super admiral mythical Buddha full zoan form and CoC user Sencuck actually did hit luffy point blank and full force at MF and maybe took 0,2 HP.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Ever heard of plot armor?
Super admiral mythical Buddha full zoan form and CoC user Sencuck actually did hit luffy point blank and full force at MF and maybe took 0,2 HP.

It's not just plot armor
Mihawk wasn't trying that hard

 

[SDfear]

Arabs already have higher quality and translation out, eng is next

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Loki's words here makes more sense now

> Wasn't able to verbalize his own power(his coc)
> I've experienced killing a HK before(his HK dad)

So seemingly most likely due to the moment, he unleashed his CoC when killing his dad, but didn't realize it at that moment until Gaban's wordings made him verbalize his own power

According to Harald Loki was using CoC in the fight before the final hit.

 

[Sentinel]

Cool that we're celebrating Ragnir so hard. I mean it's a very impressive weapon. In DBZ terms it's probably Perfect Cell. You all know what the Kid Boo equivalent is in that analogy

Sorry but Mihawk better prove his strength soon, otherwise he's the Mr. Satan in One Piece.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

My headcanon so far ist you probably need a critical mass on haki to severe the connection between the opponent and the abyss

If the OPP has COC he can use defensive however the connection is harder to severe because even if you have better haki than your opp a certain amount of the attack gets diminished

So that's why only a big Kamehameha haki can truely go for the kill shot. This is also not something you would do in a real right so it's something you need to figure out. This also makes sense that despite gabs previosly fighting his but not knowing now

Exteeme headcanon however i probally used more braincells than oda on this one @Kurozumi Wiwi @grey matter @Sentinel

Something like this is actually pretty likely lmao

 

[OPKnK]

100% will be the reason why Gorosei stand out from HKs and how Oda will still make them look like threats despite their Egghead showing.
Which means if yonko level COC like Luffy was not enough, we're due for crazy powercreep for those in denial

Yep them getting COC was for certain to make them stand out more .
As for powercreep will all know that CoC haki has that build in and we see more crazy haki displays .
We see that joyboy haki with them for a reason lol.

 

[Mighty Action X]

Ragnir is obviously a Zoan fed into a powerful weapon.

 

[BestGen]

Arabs already have higher quality and translation out, eng is next

Link?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Something like this is actually pretty likely lmao

Isn't that just what the explanation is in canon?

 

[kekaro]

Ever heard of plot armor?
Super admiral mythical Buddha full zoan form and CoC user Sencuck actually did hit luffy point blank and full force at MF and maybe took 0,2 HP.

Yes I did hear of it

Yet kuzan touch low diffed Luffy so hard in long ring island he was on the verge of dying and resulted in the best arc of one piece and crew dynamic
Meanwhile the blade that doesn't know restraint was filler for 2 chapters

It's crazy how shit portrayed painter is in the manga compared to ideas favs he alone is the bum one alongside bumgoku @Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @Kurozumi Wiwi

 

[SDfear]

Link?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2004554182649655471

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Tobirama > Minato

 

[Crow]

Yes I did hear of it

Yet kuzan touch low diffed Luffy so hard in long ring island he was on the verge of dying and resulted in the best arc of one piece and crew dynamic
Meanwhile the blade that doesn't know restraint was filler for 2 chapters

It's crazy how shit portrayed painter is in the manga compared to ideas favs he alone is the bum one alongside bumgoku @Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @Kurozumi Wiwi

I'll let the low effort comparisons slide for the sake of our common ground of shitting on Sencuck, the chatterbox and goat enjoyer

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2004554182649655471

English translation of chapter but their link doesn't seem to work.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Last version of Shanks the painter was confirmed relative to btw

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I'll let the low effort comparisons slide for the sake of our common ground of shitting on Sencuck, the chatterbox and goat enjoyer

Sengoatku did nothing wrong wtf