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I have to admit Sanji carrying Gaban made everything more uncertain and harder to predict.
Sommers is with Colon so Sanji vs Sommers seems unavoidable and imminent. Way too soon for the Evil Sanji scenario to play out as I imagined
At the same time, Luffy vs Imu is happening but we know he cannot kill Gunko to replicate Loki's feat. She is just a brainwashed girl related to Brook. Luffy vs Kilingham (or Sommers) is the only way to do that, however this would leave Zoro (or Sanji) without an opponent. And Sanji and Zoro vs DR Dorry and Brogi cannot happen unless both strawhats are available at the same time
Sommers is with Colon so Sanji vs Sommers seems unavoidable and imminent. Way too soon for the Evil Sanji scenario to play out as I imagined
At the same time, Luffy vs Imu is happening but we know he cannot kill Gunko to replicate Loki's feat. She is just a brainwashed girl related to Brook. Luffy vs Kilingham (or Sommers) is the only way to do that, however this would leave Zoro (or Sanji) without an opponent. And Sanji and Zoro vs DR Dorry and Brogi cannot happen unless both strawhats are available at the same time
I have to admit Sanji carrying Gaban made everything more uncertain and harder to predict.
Sommers is with Colon so Sanji vs Sommers seems unavoidable and imminent. Way too soon for the Evil Sanji scenario to play out as I imagined
At the same time, Luffy vs Imu is happening but we know he cannot kill Gunko to replicate Loki's feat. She is just a brainwashed girl related to Brook. Luffy vs Kilingham (or Sommers) is the only way to do that, however this would leave Zoro (or Sanji) without an opponent. And Sanji and Zoro vs DR Dorry and Brogi cannot happen unless both strawhats are available at the same time
Sommers is with Colon so Sanji vs Sommers seems unavoidable and imminent. Way too soon for the Evil Sanji scenario to play out as I imagined
At the same time, Luffy vs Imu is happening but we know he cannot kill Gunko to replicate Loki's feat. She is just a brainwashed girl related to Brook. Luffy vs Kilingham (or Sommers) is the only way to do that, however this would leave Zoro (or Sanji) without an opponent. And Sanji and Zoro vs DR Dorry and Brogi cannot happen unless both strawhats are available at the same time
That's Oda.
Yeah i made a thread Oda just goes for the most obvious shit, there are patterns that hardly change
Imu is here through Gunko, and Sommers and Killingham are Imu's direct subbordinates so Zoro and Sanji are fighting them, period.
Even if i get some of the implications for Dorry and Broggy fighting Z and S like them being rivals, the Dino hunt in little garden and one using axes like Gaban while the other use swords like Ray.. At the end of the day this is just another Sanji will fight King type of shit i believe (even if they had clashes and even fought offscreen, the same could happen with Broggy/Dorry and Sanji.. Who knows? One thing doesn't erase the other)
Beating Dorry and Broggy could very weel be a team effort task, why not?
Imu is here through Gunko, and Sommers and Killingham are Imu's direct subbordinates so Zoro and Sanji are fighting them, period.
Even if i get some of the implications for Dorry and Broggy fighting Z and S like them being rivals, the Dino hunt in little garden and one using axes like Gaban while the other use swords like Ray.. At the end of the day this is just another Sanji will fight King type of shit i believe (even if they had clashes and even fought offscreen, the same could happen with Broggy/Dorry and Sanji.. Who knows? One thing doesn't erase the other)
Beating Dorry and Broggy could very weel be a team effort task, why not?
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This Sommers hate is totally unjustified and unsustainable. Sanji is killing Sommers for sure and he is the best new character of 2025, love him already 
Oda’s not gonna start spamming deaths now just coz.
Sommers is too weak to be Sanji’s opponent. I just asked where y’all think Sanji’s finna be PL-wise end of Elbaf and the consensus was Old Legend Tier at worst. Sommers was literally sacrificed by Old Gaban lol & got one tapped by Rayleigh. Except Sanji is one tapping Sommers the math ain’t mathing.
If Zoro & Sanji are not fighting Dorry & Broggy for whatever reason then two of the Gorosei will have to descend on Elbaf. Is that simple 🤷🏿♂️
If Sanji fights Sommers, I hope that means he's fighting Ju Peter. The world's best cook has to fight the head of the world's agricultural network, the source of all the damn food, whose whole power revolves around being a gluttonous worm.
Unless Oda just unceremoniously kills off the rest of the Gorosei like he did Saturn and skips straight to lmu and the knights.
Unless Oda just unceremoniously kills off the rest of the Gorosei like he did Saturn and skips straight to lmu and the knights.
Yup and I'm not really sure why that is supposed to be a wild take. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the "Monster Trio" for a reason so yes they are relative. Made this argument a million times already but narrative will always trump perceived feats. This is why Zoro is able to not look out of place alongside Luffy on the rooftop even with all the power buffs the latter got prior to Wano and Zoro will never leave Sanji behind like some Zoro fanboys have been saying since the TS irregardless of how good his feats look. Hell I've even seen folks make the argument that Luffy was going to leave Zoro and Sanji behind now that he's become a Yonko and then we'll have the new M3 of Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe but then we get Roger, Ray and Gaban dynamic to completely tank that dumbass argument.
I'm aware that Nika is pretty OP, but same Nika was arguably outperformed by Kiz on Egghead.
That's the power of narrative.
Also as an add-on, after the TS which of the SHs came out if it with Haki again?
After Wano, how many SHs came out of it with the "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano again?
Now on Elbaf, doesn't Sanji's Roger pirate parallel also have the so called "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano?
But I'm supposed to believe that the M3 are not relative?
If so Oda's doing a very poor job at depicting it.
I'm aware that Nika is pretty OP, but same Nika was arguably outperformed by Kiz on Egghead.
That's the power of narrative.
Also as an add-on, after the TS which of the SHs came out if it with Haki again?
After Wano, how many SHs came out of it with the "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano again?
Now on Elbaf, doesn't Sanji's Roger pirate parallel also have the so called "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano?
But I'm supposed to believe that the M3 are not relative?
If so Oda's doing a very poor job at depicting it.
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The dynamic is there but the same dynamic doesn’t trump all logic
We’ve seen how Luffy stacks up against top tiers. Sanji just isn’t replicating anything close to that currently
Zoro isn’t either. The M3 existing doesn’t mean you should look at all of these scenes and claim they just don’t matter
Sanji used his strongest attack on Luffy and didn’t do meaningful damage to him. I’m not on the “base Luffy stomps everybody” train but in G5 (which he wouldn’t even need) he’d absolutely ridicule Sanji 1v1
Brudda, you might be 1 out of 10 Sanji fans on the planet that believes all 3 of them are relative. I don’t even think the biggest Sanji fans in this FC believe that. So I wouldn’t say he’s done a very poor job of depicting it
Relative to Zoro is a topic of discussion here and given what we’ve seen I think it’s somewhat fair. Relative to Luffy though? No shot
We’ve seen how Luffy stacks up against top tiers. Sanji just isn’t replicating anything close to that currently
Zoro isn’t either. The M3 existing doesn’t mean you should look at all of these scenes and claim they just don’t matter
Sanji used his strongest attack on Luffy and didn’t do meaningful damage to him. I’m not on the “base Luffy stomps everybody” train but in G5 (which he wouldn’t even need) he’d absolutely ridicule Sanji 1v1
But I'm supposed to believe that the M3 are not relative? If so Oda's doing a very poor job at depicting it.
If so Oda's doing a very poor job at depicting it.
Brudda, you might be 1 out of 10 Sanji fans on the planet that believes all 3 of them are relative. I don’t even think the biggest Sanji fans in this FC believe that. So I wouldn’t say he’s done a very poor job of depicting it
Relative to Zoro is a topic of discussion here and given what we’ve seen I think it’s somewhat fair. Relative to Luffy though? No shot
The whole Loki joining discussion is useless imo
Whether he joins or not, the next arc it'll be Zoro and Sanji surpassing his strength, so its really indifferent
Thing is Luffy pretty much got every single powerup possible in One Piece, so it does seem that way now, but its due to change soon
They're supposed to be close
Whether he joins or not, the next arc it'll be Zoro and Sanji surpassing his strength, so its really indifferent
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Yup and I'm not really sure why that is supposed to be a wild take. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the "Monster Trio" for a reason so yes they are relative. Made this argument a million times already but narrative will always trump perceived feats. This is why Zoro is able to not look out of place alongside Luffy on the rooftop even with all the power buffs the latter got prior to Wano and Zoro will never leave Sanji behind like some Zoro fanboys have been saying since the TS irregardless of how good his feats look. Hell I've even seen folks make the argument that Luffy was going to leave Zoro and Sanji behind now that he's become a Yonko and then we'll have the new M3 of Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe but then we get Roger, Ray and Gaban dynamic to completely tank that dumbass argument.
I'm aware that Nika is pretty OP, but same Nika was arguably outperformed by Kiz on Egghead.
That's the power of narrative.
Also as an add-on, after the TS which of the SHs came out if it with Haki again?
After Wano, how many SHs came out of it with the "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano again?
Now on Elbaf, doesn't Sanji's Roger pirate parallel also have the so called "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano?
But I'm supposed to believe that the M3 are not relative? If so Oda's doing a very poor job at depicting it.
I'm aware that Nika is pretty OP, but same Nika was arguably outperformed by Kiz on Egghead.
That's the power of narrative.
Also as an add-on, after the TS which of the SHs came out if it with Haki again?
After Wano, how many SHs came out of it with the "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano again?
Now on Elbaf, doesn't Sanji's Roger pirate parallel also have the so called "handful of the strongest" ability that Kaido was going on about on Wano?
But I'm supposed to believe that the M3 are not relative?
If so Oda's doing a very poor job at depicting it.
They're supposed to be close
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