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Idk if he'll fight Sommers or not but I don't see why Sanji fans would hate him so much for being a jobber. Queen was also portrayed as a major jobber for a good while until he fought Sanji and showed us that he's actually very menacing and strong when he's really trying to win in a fight.
Based off that I think Sommers will be fairly strong when he's really in it to win it, after all the dude was blocking attacks from Old Gaban while missing an arm.
Based off that I think Sommers will be fairly strong when he's really in it to win it, after all the dude was blocking attacks from Old Gaban while missing an arm.
This is what I imagined what gonna happen from now on..
Sanji Gaban Chopper together with Franky group who thy meet along the way has arrived and, Gaban cut the thorn and free Robin.
Then, they decide to spilt into 2 groups Robin jinbei Lilith Bonney to Owl Library while Sanji Gaban Nami rescue the kids. Chopper still worry about Gaban,but Gaban reassure Chopper he's fine already. Chopper then help to treat Saul and other teachers.
Usopp decide to join Robin group because he knew Gunko and Sommer in west side of branch direction so he lied saying something like , Sanji we both the strongest here,so we gotta split I'm gonna take care Robin, and then he ran with a big smile.. Sanji then Shout from a distance take care lilith and Bonney too, because I can sense other strong enemy there (refer to Killing ham). Usopp reply Whatttt!!!
Along the way, Sanji group arrived at Gunko-Brook branch, Gunko about to kill Brook but Gaban stopped Gunko. Sanji warn Gaban not to hurt that girl, Gaban said she an enemy. Gunko stabbed Gaban while he's distracted. Nami decide to step up but also fail but Sanji who hesitate to fight Gunko stopped Gunko attacked and asked her stopped all of this. Sanji didn't want to attacked her because he can sense the woman tear inside that demon Gunko. Imu take over Gunko completely and create a lots of tentacles and stabbed Sanji including right into his heart, she then try to provoke Sanji. But Sanji remain calm and doesn't get provoked by whatever Imu said. Imu shocked, Brook mention to Sanji that we need to save her from whatever demon try to possessed her. Sanji said he knew, and grab one of tentacles that stabbed his heart. That action, trigger Gunko as it create a massive Black Lighting (little flashback on what Gaban told Sanji earlier) Gaban sense Sanji is strong but hiding something that Gaban couldn't really figured, so Sanji need to go all out at once to see his true potential power.
Back to present, Sanji hair started to turn black.........
Sanji Gaban Chopper together with Franky group who thy meet along the way has arrived and, Gaban cut the thorn and free Robin.
Then, they decide to spilt into 2 groups Robin jinbei Lilith Bonney to Owl Library while Sanji Gaban Nami rescue the kids. Chopper still worry about Gaban,but Gaban reassure Chopper he's fine already. Chopper then help to treat Saul and other teachers.
Usopp decide to join Robin group because he knew Gunko and Sommer in west side of branch direction so he lied saying something like , Sanji we both the strongest here,so we gotta split I'm gonna take care Robin, and then he ran with a big smile.. Sanji then Shout from a distance take care lilith and Bonney too, because I can sense other strong enemy there (refer to Killing ham). Usopp reply Whatttt!!!
Along the way, Sanji group arrived at Gunko-Brook branch, Gunko about to kill Brook but Gaban stopped Gunko. Sanji warn Gaban not to hurt that girl, Gaban said she an enemy. Gunko stabbed Gaban while he's distracted. Nami decide to step up but also fail but Sanji who hesitate to fight Gunko stopped Gunko attacked and asked her stopped all of this. Sanji didn't want to attacked her because he can sense the woman tear inside that demon Gunko. Imu take over Gunko completely and create a lots of tentacles and stabbed Sanji including right into his heart, she then try to provoke Sanji. But Sanji remain calm and doesn't get provoked by whatever Imu said. Imu shocked, Brook mention to Sanji that we need to save her from whatever demon try to possessed her. Sanji said he knew, and grab one of tentacles that stabbed his heart. That action, trigger Gunko as it create a massive Black Lighting (little flashback on what Gaban told Sanji earlier) Gaban sense Sanji is strong but hiding something that Gaban couldn't really figured, so Sanji need to go all out at once to see his true potential power.
Back to present, Sanji hair started to turn black.........
Again there is nothing wrong with Sommers as a character or an antagonist even and the jobber title is not exclusive to him and applies to all of the Holy Knights. The problem here is the standard most hold for Zoro & Sanji.
For one, Sommers & the Holy Knights rank smack in the middle amongst Imu’s ranked Soldiers and are not exactly top executives. Zoro & Sanji typically fight top executives. Of course there’s nothing wrong with both fighting them if the argument is that the standard for Imu’s subordinates is high & Luffy fights a Gorosei but Luffy is gonna be fighting Imu so Zoro & Sanji fighting Imu’s second string is not really an attractive proposition.
Then there is the fact that the holy knights have not really covered themselves in glory with their performances so far.
Old Gaban v Sommers - two-tapped by Gaban
Rayleigh v Sommers - one-tapped by Rayleigh
Young Newgate v Maffey - one-tapped by Newgate
Xebec v Fraud of God Valley - one-tapped by Xebec
They’ve been treated by fodder by every remotely strong character so far and only time they’ve been able to strut their stuff has been against characters much weaker than them.
But then these are the guys that Zoro & Sanji are supposed to be struggling with? In an arc where Gaban is telling them to raise the standard? And Luffy’s gonna be soaring to even greater heights?
For one, Sommers & the Holy Knights rank smack in the middle amongst Imu’s ranked Soldiers and are not exactly top executives. Zoro & Sanji typically fight top executives. Of course there’s nothing wrong with both fighting them if the argument is that the standard for Imu’s subordinates is high & Luffy fights a Gorosei but Luffy is gonna be fighting Imu so Zoro & Sanji fighting Imu’s second string is not really an attractive proposition.
Then there is the fact that the holy knights have not really covered themselves in glory with their performances so far.
Old Gaban v Sommers - two-tapped by Gaban
Rayleigh v Sommers - one-tapped by Rayleigh
Young Newgate v Maffey - one-tapped by Newgate
Xebec v Fraud of God Valley - one-tapped by Xebec
They’ve been treated by fodder by every remotely strong character so far and only time they’ve been able to strut their stuff has been against characters much weaker than them.
But then these are the guys that Zoro & Sanji are supposed to be struggling with? In an arc where Gaban is telling them to raise the standard? And Luffy’s gonna be soaring to even greater heights?
I'm starting to think maybe we need to redefine what jobbing means, because all of the losses you mentioned are the HKs losing to certified top tiers and most of them are the HKs getting caught off guard too.
But given the HKs are likely mostly high tiers, is it really bad if they can't match up to people like Prime Ray or Primebeard? Even Law and Kidd needed to jump a weaker, slower and more incompetent top tier than those two and they're above high tiers.
But given the HKs are likely mostly high tiers, is it really bad if they can't match up to people like Prime Ray or Primebeard? Even Law and Kidd needed to jump a weaker, slower and more incompetent top tier than those two and they're above high tiers.
What kind of excuse is this lol or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it.
We saw King & Queen who are much weaker than Yonko put in decent shifts against BM.
Even Zoro & Sanji are getting in good feats against top tiers to put respect on their name.
Regardless a character that is getting two tapped by Old Gaban being a tough matchup for Zoro or Sanji at this point into story is not good tidings for them going forward. So no thank you
anything other than a neg or low diff is unacceptable against the holy jobbers.
We saw King & Queen who are much weaker than Yonko put in decent shifts against BM.
Even Zoro & Sanji are getting in good feats against top tiers to put respect on their name.
Regardless a character that is getting two tapped by Old Gaban being a tough matchup for Zoro or Sanji at this point into story is not good tidings for them going forward. So no thank you
anything other than a neg or low diff is unacceptable against the holy jobbers.
Even if you’re talking strictly power levels, oda still makes Zoro and Sanji opponents look impressive in comparison.
Both King and Queen faced off against Big Mom and still, oda didn’t make either of them job until after Zoro and Sanji beat them, whether it’s knocking BM out the ship by King or her getting captured by Queen
It’s not about the power levels, but the respect oda shows drawing these characters.
Both King and Queen faced off against Big Mom and still, oda didn’t make either of them job until after Zoro and Sanji beat them, whether it’s knocking BM out the ship by King or her getting captured by Queen
It’s not about the power levels, but the respect oda shows drawing these characters.
What kind of excuse is this lol or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it.
We saw King & Queen who are much weaker than Yonko put in decent shifts against BM.
Even Zoro & Sanji are getting in good feats against top tiers to put respect on their name.
Regardless a character that is getting two tapped by Old Gaban being a tough matchup for Zoro or Sanji at this point into story is not good tidings for them going forward. So no thank you
anything other than a neg or low diff is unacceptable against the holy jobbers.
We saw King & Queen who are much weaker than Yonko put in decent shifts against BM.
Even Zoro & Sanji are getting in good feats against top tiers to put respect on their name.
Regardless a character that is getting two tapped by Old Gaban being a tough matchup for Zoro or Sanji at this point into story is not good tidings for them going forward. So no thank you
anything other than a neg or low diff is unacceptable against the holy jobbers.
Also, again, Sommers was caught off guard by Old Gaban literally flying at him and randomly slicing his arm off out of no where lol. But I do get what you guys are saying.
Also just gotta say. All of this Sommers slander now coz it’s looking like he fights Sanji is pretty shameless especially considering most of the folks slandering him considered him the best of the lot when they were first introduced with Kiringham having a goofy design but now that Kiringham looks like an edge lord he’s suddenly a decent opponent and Sommers shit
Also just gotta say. All of this Sommers slander now coz it’s looking like he fights Sanji is pretty shameless especially considering most of the folks slandering him considered him the best of the lot when they were first introduced with Kiringham had a goofy design but now that Kiringham looks like an edge lord he’s suddenly a decent opponent and Sommers shit
Sadly I think I might end up being wrong about Robin fighting Sommers and maybe Usopp fighting Killingham too, so, yeah
On the other hand Sanji vs Sommers would be written far better than Sanji vs Dorry or Brogy.
Right now neither Gunko or Sommers look strong enough to fight Luffy, Loki & Sanji, Zoro. Killingham's df also seems more for useful for team fight rather than 1v1.
Either there's more to the HK seal like a stage 2 curse mark from Naruto, or there's gonna be reinforcements, or DR Loki's gonna become Oars 2.0 where everyone fights him.
Either there's more to the HK seal like a stage 2 curse mark from Naruto, or there's gonna be reinforcements, or DR Loki's gonna become Oars 2.0 where everyone fights him.
Some of y'all make it obvious your views and opinions are heavily informed by noise.
Y'all are frauds that can't stand on your own reading of the facts.
It's why so many of you dickheads in this thread still buy into narratives that suggest daylight between Zoro and Sanji and downplays the latter's opponents.
You bitches lack confidence in your capacity. Disgusting.
Y'all are frauds that can't stand on your own reading of the facts.
It's why so many of you dickheads in this thread still buy into narratives that suggest daylight between Zoro and Sanji and downplays the latter's opponents.
You bitches lack confidence in your capacity.
Disgusting.