Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which dragon fruit is more impressive?


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Harald's defenses did the same thing they did against Shanks+Gaban = regenerated everything
Then Harald never was defenseless, since his body kept recovering even with his senses back. And the fact Loki easily overpowered Harald to the point of knocking Imu's influence temporarily out of him further demonstrates his power level.
Kaido never doing it could be for one of the 2 reasons.
He either doesnt know how to manipulate CoC to do a burst.
Or it was a narrative decision to prevent those fights from going from low diff to lol diff
Well, we can only judge by what we saw. Or else we can use the Narrarive decision card whenever it pleases us.
 
So someone Luffy can beat will defeat this man stronger than Roger… you get how stupid that sounds right?
Not really, considering the point of this would be that Imu is weakened after the fight.
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There is no Imu in the First World in the mural tho.
Yeah, there is the same entity that we saw in the second and third era too. And which against all fight.
 
No way Shanks beat Loki, he’d get flicked like a booger. Just read the lore between Tyr and Fenrir, and you’ll realize what really happened.
It don't matter what the lore is norse in OP shanks is the golden boy .

I don’t think G5 is above Roger… shit didn’t even do serious damage to Kizaru after an extended round.
That round was cat and mouse it not like Kizaru do any damage to luffy either if anything Kizaru went down with one luffy punch .
It was one of the most plot heavy nerf fights in series for both characters which suck.
One of the worst fights in OP.
 
Oda will reuse stuff, this is already proven and tested lol. Tyr was the one who tricked Fenrir into getting chained. Shanks did the same to Loki, that’s why the latter calls him a coward.
No you got this wrong. Tyr was the one who was ready to risk his arm to convince him. The proposal came from other gods. Tyr was just the only one willing to sacrifice his arm
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But Imu's gang would be fodders compared to him. It's like in DBZ where Frieza's right hand man had 1/1000th of his power level.

It just makes them look so insignificant. Like will beating Sommers matter? Loki could likely do that in 2 seconds next chapter if he wanted.
But that is how it always been the people luffy fight is be way above the rest of the crew.
I know we going get some people say Zoro close or Sanji or now Jinbei .
But nah they would get wash by who luffy is fight .
I mean the rest of BBP fodders compare to BB and he the other FV maybe not counting Kuzan and he might not stay a BBP.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
I think nerona king from 2nd world
Entity of Imu from 1st world
Imu is the name of Nerona king from the 2nd world.

Well, we can only judge by what we saw. Or else we can use the Narrarive decision card whenever it pleases us.
I am fine with whatever explanation you choose regarding why Kaido never used Haki burst. It doesnt matter either way.

Then Harald never was defenseless, since his body kept recovering even with his senses back. And the fact Loki easily overpowered Harald to the point of knocking Imu's influence temporarily out of him further demonstrates his power level.
He was defenseless because he dropped aCoC passive defenses which were the problem in the first place.
Both Shanks+Gaban encountered this just the same Roger+Garp did against DR Rocks.
aCoC passive defense is what neutralized attacks and didnt allow the damage to stick.
Regen is just a bonus that neutralizes mutilation, which only happens on characters with regen to begin with but it is aCoC which prevents damage from sticking.

And Harald removed that most important part and at that point, anything can kill him.
Overpowering him is not the reason for Imu's link to be interrupted.
Seems like Loki's power level wasnt enough for Shanks...
 
No you got this wrong. Tyr was the one who was ready to risk his arm to convince him. The proposal came from other gods. Tyr was just the only one willing to sacrifice his arm
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You get my point though, I was just keeping it short lol. It was a collective idea by the gods but Tyr was the one who delivered the deed.
 
But that is how it always been the people luffy fight is be way above the rest of the crew.
I know we going get some people say Zoro close or Sanji or now Jinbei .
But nah they would get wash by who luffy is fight .
I mean the rest of BBP fodders compare to BB and he the other FV maybe not counting Kuzan and he might not stay a BBP.
Luffy fights were 2x stronger like Lucci with 4000 douriki vs next being 2200.
But it's feeling like it's Luffys fights gonna be 100x stronger by EoS.
 
Imu is the name of Nerona king from the 2nd world.


I am fine with whatever explanation you choose regarding why Kaido never used Haki burst. It doesnt matter either way.


He was defenseless because he dropped aCoC passive defenses which were the problem in the first place.
Both Shanks+Gaban encountered this just the same Roger+Garp did against DR Rocks.
aCoC passive defense is what neutralized attacks and didnt allow the damage to stick.
Regen is just a bonus that neutralizes mutilation, which only happens on characters with regen to begin with but it is aCoC which prevents damage from sticking.

And Harald removed that most important part and at that point, anything can kill him.
Overpowering him is not the reason for Imu's link to be interrupted.
Seems like Loki's power level wasnt enough for Shanks...
The fact that people just discount harald drop his guard make no sense to me .
For eg in wano Zoro said if he not use his CoA king attack could have kill him .
Which make sense you use haki to make you defence and attack stronger .
So why would defenceless Harald be stronger as DR rocks who never let down his guard to point he did not even need regen cause his defence was so high .
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
The fact that people just discount harald drop his guard make no sense to me .
For eg in wano Zoro said if he not use his CoA king attack could have kill him .
Which make sense you use haki to make you defence and attack stronger .
So why would defenceless Harald be stronger as DR rocks who never let down his guard to point he did not even need regen cause his defence was so high .
They do it intentionally, it fits their agenda.
 
The fact that people just discount harald drop his guard make no sense to me .
For eg in wano Zoro said if he not use his CoA king attack could have kill him .
Which make sense you use haki to make you defence and attack stronger .
So why would defenceless Harald be stronger as DR rocks who never let down his guard to point he did not even need regen cause his defence was so high .
The point is that Loki beat sense into Harald before that.
 
Luffy fights were 2x stronger like Lucci with 4000 douriki vs next being 2200.
But it's feeling like it's Luffys fights gonna be 100x stronger by EoS.
I would say luffy fights were already more 2x stronger when he was fighting people like croc and enel .
Oda try to do that power system thing and he never did it again cause it made no sense .
When you have luffy fight warlords and yonko and others fighting people way less strong.
 
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