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Why are People using Luffy to Scale Loki's Size?
Luffy's Giant Form isn't like a Fixed Transformation, it's just him stretching more, He can get as Big as He wants, You think Hand that was holding Kizaru is same as Hand that was using Kaidou as Jump Rope? lol

Luffy gets as big as He needs or wants to be,
I don't need to see any Panels, I know that Loki's Dragon fits inside their Castle, which represents a Single Area in that Tree Branch. Unless Loki can Manipulate his Zoan Size, then He isn't as Big as People imagine him to be,

We've seen before entire Path in that Tree Branch blocked by Flames, We can use that to Scale, cuz Loki isn't gonna be Bigger than that, Jinbe completely covered that entire Area with his Water, you think what Jinbe threw was enough to cover 100 Kaidous lol

I don't know who's bigger between Loki and Kaidou, but people are overreacting to Panel Measurements, something that Oda never relied on, We instead simply conclude using character statements or check environmental implications such as as a creature not being bigger than what's housing it,
What's even this cope lol?

We have literally every leaker on face of the planet saying Loki is clearly much bigger than Kaido, even Redon, but someone they are all wrong because idk why.
 
Really interesting to note that, as soon as a character showcases aura beyond the scope of the zoro fandom's wet dreams, they start throwing really insecure statements.
Brothers... even if Loki's scale is overestimated by a considerable degree, it would still not help you get rid of your insecurity, because Loki has the kind of potential that not even your Zoro EOS delusions can cope with.
So, stop slurping your fav and enjoy the Loki hype. Don't ruin your enjoyment.
That's why people are crying and say "oda scales Zoro wrong". 😂
Zoro fans are more hype that oda is glazing Loki cuz its only hypes up zoro at the end.
Get Loki pass shanks first. :rolaugh::endthis:
 
What's even this cope lol?

We have literally every leaker on face of the planet saying Loki is clearly much bigger than Kaido, even Redon, but someone they are all wrong because idk why.
He himself said, he doesn't know who's bigger.
He is only pointing out how they might blowing size out of proportion and given oda history of size inconsistencies.

There is no " cope " here.
 
People being killed or not killed depends on Oda's whim, whether he thinks the story benefits from it or not.
Harald removing defenses is not irrelevant, lol. That is the most important part and yet you ignore it...
Hold it buster, Garp+Roger killed a stronger opponent and he didnt drop his aCoC defenses.
Loki's feat is nothing compared to that. Anyone could have killed Harald in that moment.
Yall are blinded and fooled by Loki hype, self-sabotage at its best. :milaugh:
You are wrong about 2 things.

First loki single handedly got past harald's ACOC defense and hurt him so bad , imu's control over harald was lost. This is stronger harald as harald outlived xebec by 20 years or more and hence grew stronger than xebec and HK amp should be >> DR amp given it is a special amp.

Harald was in kill mode before loki dominated him and cutoff his connection by himself. This puts him above Roger and garp combined and even more.

NOW I am not talking about the above. I am talking that loki is the first to kill a regen user using ACOC which even Roger pirates couldn't. It shows loki's ACOC being above Roger pirates. This is relevant as it shook imu himself. Imu didn't gave a damn when DR xebec died.
 
He himself said, he doesn't know who's bigger.
He is only pointing out how they might blowing size out of proportion and given oda history of size inconsistencies.

There is no " cope " here.
Fair he doesn't: he hasn't seen the scans. I too "haven't".

The fact is that every leaker who has says there Is not even compairson. Even Redon, who Is usually quite conservative on deductions.

We see giant Luffy, we see Ragnir, we see (I suppose) the Giant children compared to Loki when he saves them, we see (according to Will of Marco) Loki dawarfing the Nightmares the end (and we previously saw how bigger then NM were compared to giants).

We have plenty of compairson.
 
Btw It's crazy how Oda went basically 1:1 in the parallel Kaido-Loki. He has reproduced Kaido's distinctive characteristics 1:1, improving them:

- like Kaido, Loki has all the rhetoric of the monster, anomaly, etc... but in fact much better, being a sort of ancient mutant giant while Kaido was “only” an Oni;

- Kaido was the unstoppable thug of his random nation, but Loki is that of Erbaf, the nation of War;

- Loki, as a newborn, replicated Kaido's demonstration, falling from Yggdrasil and surviving.

- Like Kaido, Loki repeatedly attempts suicide by throwing himself from Yggdrasil but fails (and as a child, a fruitless child: not a 60-year-old with a fruit).

- Kaido had elemental powers. Loki, in his first half-demonstration, throws the biggest lightning bolt seen in the manga;

- as we have recently seen, Kaido went above and beyond for his dragon fruit...just to turn out to be the second category Dragon fruit and for Loki to have the great OG, "more legendary" Dragon fruit, the legendary fruit of Erbaf actually relevant for the big plot against Imu;

- even the weapon. Both have blunt weapons: Kaido had a normal club; Loki has a mythical zoan hammer that seems to be as strong as a top-tier itself;

- Kaido was said to be the WSC, Loki now Is called the world strongest existence according the main prophecy/history of the manga.

And I'm sure I've forgotten a few :Rofl:.

Really, Oda went 1:1 and gave Loki the much better version of everything.
You forgot that Kaido is from Vodka Kingdom and Loki's Mother is from alcohol village, so technically they have alcohol is their bloodlines.
 
So Rocks wanted Harald to eat it, because an ancient giant gives the Zoan form a 30× size multiplier I guess.

Momo by growing up made the size of his Zoan form hundred times bigger aswell, right.

I just hope that Loki and Luffy go all out on some nightmare monsters. I wanna see some feats. These things are perfect for it
I don't think It works that way.

Momo's Dragon was as big as Kaido's, even though Kaido is a much higher and bigger human.

Momo was tinier before because being a child, it was a baby Dragon.
 
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I guess that size inconsistency can go both ways, given Kaido's dragon form also appeared different in size depending on the angle or interaction with smaller targets. I guess we would have to see how Luffy's and Loki's size compare to those of the giant children they caught, to scale appropriately.
I don't use any panel for scaling size, I just conclude based on what such Characters achieved with their size, Loki is big enough to carry Giants and small enough to run inside their Castle, so that's the range for me, Kaidou is also within that range, and I said I dont know who's bigger, but either way, people shouldn't act like They aren't Comparable, like Kaidou is Loki's Pigeon
 
I don't need to see any Panels, I know that Loki's Dragon fits inside their Castle, which represents a Single Area in that Tree Branch. Unless Loki can Manipulate his Zoan Size, then He isn't as Big as People imagine him to be,
Why do you people keep forgetting that a single smaller room contains enough space for that giant guy to create a miniature Elbaf, basically a town in a single room? The place where Loki used his DF is significantly larger than that particular room.

Giant Luffy isn't even as large as one of Loki's horns. That should tell you enough of his size. Idk about Dragon Loki vs Blazing Bagua Kaido in terms of size but Loki clearly outscales Dragon Kaido significantly.
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Loki
- Defeated by shanks
Nothing of that was ever stated.
 
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