Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

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It wasn't a title though, it was a chapter title that would have completely shit on actual titles given in the story since it contradicts them. Not necessary since Loki is being shown to be outright stronger than Kaidou anyway, but it would have made it that much more of a blatant shooting down of titles.
Which is the same as shit Kaido fans was using:
 
Loki has done more damage to the Yonko agenda than Power Rangers fans could ever dream of. The guys who used to dick ride Kaido are now throwing him to trash, just to upscale Loki. lmfao
Have some shame, man
That's because some people, instead of thinking about who the final enemies were, kept talking nonsense about "pirate manga" and Emperors being relevant when in fact they were stepping stones.
 
The 3rd world is not depicted on the mural either and its Giant childrens drawings. Its meant to be abstract. The Harley text a totally different source of information. We dont know what is on the drawings vs the text.

It does not make Loki, a character who appeared after 1100 chapters, the Co-MC just because he shares a title with Luffy.

Anyway, Im just telling you whats already been stated in the manga.

- Loki calls himself the Sun God and a Destroyer in his introduction.
- Elbaph citizens argue whether or not the Sun God (which is never stated as Nika) is a Liberator or a Destroyer
- Rocks implies 2 fruits are needed to topple the WG and one of them is Loki's (so your MC point is moot anyway because Loki necessary to Oda's endgame plot regardless of his title).
- Finally this chapter just straight up seems to imply both of them are the Sun God from the Harley text.

You can also literally deduce that Luffy and Loki are the one that havent met again until now, since they were allegedly split. Imu does not recognize Loki's power, which basically insinuates that when Joyboy was Nika, nobody was the Dragon in that era. Shanks is basically the reason both are meeting right now.
Elbaf citizens called Nika a God of Liberation, God of Destruction, and God of Laughter. Wouldn’t there have to be 3 Nika’s in that case?

Rocks’s plot didn’t even involve the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Nika at all, seeing as how he didn’t even know who Nika was until Harald told him, so Rocks’s plan isn’t really even relevant here since we know that the true way to defeat Imu will involve Luffy’s fruit

Where does the full summary imply that? Jarul just mentions the Sun God riding a dragon

There’s 4 figures that the Harley mural highlights the most, and 4 figures in the Harley text that get highlighted the most. Seems like the most straightforward interpretation would be that those 4 figures in the mural correspond to the 4 figures in the text
 

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Loki can still serve as a foil to Sun God Luffy by being the Forest God, who was portrayed as being relative to Nika in the Harley text. Again, why is there no mention of 2 Sun Gods in the Harley text? And why would there not be 2 Sea Gods, Earth Gods, and Forest Gods in the case? It just opens up a can of worms that doesn’t need to be opened. The story will be much simpler and more coherent if Loki is the Forest God rather than being another Sun God or a Sun God top companion that is just never mentioned in the ELBAF Harley text because reasons.
I think you are confused sir, lol

Loki is not the Sun God, he just thinks that he is. In the same way that King thought Kaido was Joy Boy in spite of that making no sense, Loki believes himself to be the Sun God who will end the OP world. No one said there were two Sun Gods, lol
 
The 3rd world is not depicted on the mural either and its Giant childrens drawings. Its meant to be abstract. The Harley text a totally different source of information. We dont know what is on the drawings vs the text.

It does not make Loki, a character who appeared after 1100 chapters, the Co-MC just because he shares a title with Luffy.

Anyway, Im just telling you whats already been stated in the manga.

- Loki calls himself the Sun God and a Destroyer in his introduction.
- Elbaph citizens argue whether or not the Sun God (which is never stated as Nika) is a Liberator or a Destroyer
- Rocks implies 2 fruits are needed to topple the WG and one of them is Loki's (so your MC point is moot anyway because Loki necessary to Oda's endgame plot regardless of his title).
- Finally this chapter just straight up seems to imply both of them are the Sun God from the Harley text.

You can also literally deduce that Luffy and Loki are the one that havent met again until now, since they were allegedly split. Imu does not recognize Loki's power, which basically insinuates that when Joyboy was Nika, nobody was the Dragon in that era. Shanks is basically the reason both are meeting right now.
Loki thinks he´s the sungod because he thinks he´s going to destroy the world and start ragnarok,not because he has some type of Nika fruit, which we know is all about having a silly design, rubber powers and transforming into white(we had people point this out in Egghead for example, Kuma, Saturn etc)Loki also thought Rocks, who had no devil fruit was Nika. Him eating the Elbaf fruit was completely accidental and not something he knew the lore of, but we know that serpents like creatures are worshipped on Skypia, and Loki has always been associated with animals, @Shiroyru has a point that Loki could be the forrest god

And I hope you´re not seriously arguing that Rocks was looking for Loki and Luffys fruits, which are both somehow Nika fruits, when Rocks didn´t even know wtf Nika was, that just makes zero sense.
 
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HK Harald was getting slashed up by Gaban and Shanks for a long time, mf just kept regening, but it's noted his regen factor was slowing down thanks to that before he fights Loki, as already commented by the two. He was getting stabbed and tagged by FODDER giants, ran through, that's not impressing me. Or are we ignoring this??

When Harald and Loki start the fight, yes Harald is still controlled by Imu. However, mid-fight he gains back the conciousness after he sends Loki flying, slashing him even, he stands there, and literally tells Loki to finish him before Imu takes over. Why? Cause once Imu takes over, Loki ain't doing jackshit, none of them bums are. lol

This fight is basically Luffy vs Kizaru, Loki fans being the Luffy fans in this case.
It was actually Harald who got sent flying reread the chapter well
He slices Loki then Loki smacks him with his claw, which is why in the next panel we see Harald all diced up. Loki then squishes his head and he wakes up
Imu and Jarul's narrative also support this, dude is centered in the middle of the mural towering like a giant arse dragon
 
With this chapter Loki seems like the dragon in the middle of the drawing, and he's fighting another dragon. This might be the 2nd fruit.
I do find it interesting, that Loki could be represented by the giant warrior there or the Dragon.

However, I feel like the left and the right are two completely different stories. And that thing people believe to be Loki, could just be Imu.
 
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