Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which dragon fruit is more impressive?


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When Loki killed Harald. He questions it

It doesn´t seem like he knows what happened in general? Why, idk I don´t have any idea how Imu´s powers work, but it seems like he only influenced Harald to think he was going to kill everyone and just stopped monitoring? It´s not like he says oh some brat did it, and his powers are unknown to me, he seems to not understand what happened in general.
 
All you are doing is associating a dragon that may or may look like Loki's power coming out of a tree and calling it the forest god lol

From what the Harley says, Loki does nothing about dispatching or sending out demons around the world, and its also not something Imu recognizes in that era, since he has no idea what killed Harald.

So no, i dont think its that simple because nobody in Elbaf is revering Loki as some other God. They dont even refer him as anything but a destroyer.
Well we know next to nothing about the Forest God beyond it “taming demons.” It could be referring to DFs being created, or Imu creating demons, or Ancient Giants being created or pacified or whatever. Loki does have those demon eyes, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he does gain some demon taming ability once he awakens his fruit. Maybe that’s how DR gets cancelled?
 
It doesn´t seem like he knows what happened in general? Why, idk I don´t have any idea how Imu´s powers work, but it seems like he only influenced Harald to think he was going to kill everyone and just stopped monitoring? It´s not like he says oh some brat did it, and his powers are unknown to me, he seems to not understand what happened in general.
Doesnt this literally happen on Egghead though? His Gorosei get pushed back by Joyboy Haki and he immediately cries out for him.

This is what I mean. He doesnt recognize what the power is, which is why I doubt the other Gods unless Imu has no knowledge of any of them.
 
It doesn´t seem like he knows what happened in general? Why, idk I don´t have any idea how Imu´s powers work, but it seems like he only influenced Harald to think he was going to kill everyone and just stopped monitoring? It´s not like he says oh some brat did it, and his powers are unknown to me, he seems to not understand what happened in general.
Imu can’t see through the HKs as shanks described those who take the Deep Seal can just hear Imus voice anywhere in the world and are unable to disobey
 
Well we know next to nothing about the Forest God beyond it “taming demons.” It could be referring to DFs being created, or Imu creating demons, or Ancient Giants being created or pacified or whatever. Loki does have those demon eyes, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he does gain some demon taming ability once he awakens his fruit. Maybe that’s how DR gets cancelled?
Arent those just Snake eyes?
 
Doesnt this literally happen on Egghead though? His Gorosei get pushed back by Joyboy Haki and he immediately cries out for him.

This is what I mean. He doesnt recognize what the power is, which is why I doubt the other Gods unless Imu has no knowledge of any of them.
No idea tbh, either he has:
A deeper connection to the elders, represented by their being... iirc 3 seals? And Harald only ever got the second one, so I guess the Gorosei have the third, alongsides Gunko maybe.
Observation Haki good enough that he noticed Joyboys haki on the other side of the world, which... who knows. Gaban felt the SHP coming to Elbaf at some point, so it´s maybe... possible?

Either way, I seriously doubt Imu wouldn´t recognize the fruits powers, since it seems to be one of the only 2 fruits that could harm him. You don´t think he would have had it used against him at some point in the VC war lol?
 
@Paperchampion23 @soupongo Tbh I don’t really understand why Oda choose to include the Forest God at all in the story. Luffy, Imu, and BB are clearly gonna be the 3 most important players at EoS, so whoever the Forest God is will probably just end up feeling like a “4th wheel” even though it should be as important as the other 3 Gods
 
Idk man i feel like Harald would’ve told gaban to eat the fruit if that was the case and didn’t rocks say it’s full potential is when an ancient giant eats it?
I'm not talking about Gaban eating Loki's fruit specifically

What I'm saying is that we are all agreed Gaban and Shanks heavily wounded HK Harald multiple times, yes? We saw it in canon and then Gaban said so himself.

If Gaban and Shanks could inflict permanent damage on an ACoC-wielding immortal, they would've killed Harald. The only issue was regen — they couldn't stop it and Harald is already a top-tier, meaning he'll kill them and anyone else eventually. Loki could bypass it.

And for the record, as long as Harald was being controlled, even Loki actually couldn't permanently halt regen. Harald was still recovering; he only killed Harald once Harald lowered his defenses and he could take him out in one hit.

This is the treasure of Elbaf, Harald wouldn't have given it to a human. This fruit probably has something to do with unlocking the Galley La giants etc... so there are specific purposes for the fruit outside of combat which likely require someone like Harald or Loki.
 
Not even saying kaido fruit is greater I’m saying trying to play it off as some irrelevant fruit like vegapunk wasn’t trying to copy it and we still didn’t see the full extent of it yet. Even then kaido fruit still clears most the verse.
I agree (even though short of Awakening we have seen everything). I think there are, idk, ten fruits above Kaido's, maybe.

It is a really strong fruit. No wonder Kaido was centered on that.
 

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Maaaaann y'all mfs best hope this dude lives up to the hype y'all putting him at, and doesn't get exposed as below even crippled Kuzan as a fighter.
How about ragdolling Holy Knight Harald who neg diffed prime Saint Shanks, prime Gaban, and dozens of ancient giants at the same time? Lol

Woki has already far exceeded the hype most places on him, downplaying him is legitimately impossible. At this point Loki can only be compared to Imu and Joyboy in power.
 
No idea tbh, either he has:
A deeper connection to the elders, represented by their being... iirc 3 seals? And Harald only ever got the second one, so I guess the Gorosei have the third, alongsides Gunko maybe.
Observation Haki good enough that he noticed Joyboys haki on the other side of the world, which... who knows. Gaban felt the SHP coming to Elbaf at some point, so it´s maybe... possible?

Either way, I seriously doubt Imu wouldn´t recognize the fruits powers, since it seems to be one of the only 2 fruits that could harm him. You don´t think he would have had it used against him at some point in the VC war lol?
If we assume that the Forest God is the dragon in the mural, and the Earth God is the giant worm thing, then maybe the Forest and Earth Gods both killed each other early in the 2nd World or at the end of the 1st World, and that’s why Imu doesn’t recognize the Forest God’s power? They were shown having a beam clash in the mural, and the Earth God isn’t mentioned at all in the 2nd World despite beating Nika in the 1st World
 
@Paperchampion23 @soupongo Tbh I don’t really understand why Oda choose to include the Forest God at all in the story. Luffy, Imu, and BB are clearly gonna be the 3 most important players at EoS, so whoever the Forest God is will probably just end up feeling like a “4th wheel” even though it should be as important as the other 3 Gods
1. The God shit wasn´t planned, but when Oda did the Nika retcon, he probably realized oh I have to make all the Gods from Skypia(which was probably supposed to be throwaway line to just show they have an ancient culture) a thing, so low iq OP fans would argue that he secretly planned the retcon the whole time
2. Imu and Teach will probably die(?) so he wanted to keep one other ¨God¨ character who wasn´t really evil, so it could be a bit balanced at EOS for Luffy, he would always have someone to compete with.
 
I'll say this about Loki's DF though. It does seem like his raw destructive capability is higher than Kaido's. It seems like his DF is optimized for sheer destruction. Like if they had to both destroy an island, Loki seems to do it faster.

I still think Blazing Bagua is better for one on one though, because Loki is a sitting duck at that size. BB melts everything in its path, and Kaido doesn't get harmed at all, since it's not his body. Look at how Oden took advantage of Kaido's normal dragon size, and Loki is way bigger than that. Also defensively, Kaido's DF is way better. His base form actually inherits those "tough dragon scales".
 
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