For the 213819283th time, who do you think it's Sanji's BBP matchup?


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What did you expect from this specific chapter for Sanji that his absence caused such a reaction?.
I wanted Sanji to do something. Im tired of waiting. Then i realised he always does this. Do you remember how hyped we all were when he kicked that laser and how Oda wrote the panel showing Luffy and Sanji staring down Kizaru. In your heart of hearts you all know we were expecting some showing from Sanji. Instead the very next chapter he runs away and fails at protecting vegapunk. I was so hyped! I knew Sanji would lose to Kizaru but I at least wanted him to show me something.
 
I wanted Sanji to do something. Im tired of waiting. Then i realised he always does this. Do you remember how hyped we all were when he kicked that laser and how Oda wrote the panel showing Luffy and Sanji staring down Kizaru. In your heart of hearts you all know we were expecting some showing from Sanji. Instead the very next chapter he runs away and fails at protecting vegapunk. I was so hyped! I knew Sanji would lose to Kizaru but I at least wanted him to show me something.
I have to admit, for me too, that was a big missed opportunity.
 
I wanted Sanji to do something. Im tired of waiting. Then i realised he always does this. Do you remember how hyped we all were when he kicked that laser and how Oda wrote the panel showing Luffy and Sanji staring down Kizaru. In your heart of hearts you all know we were expecting some showing from Sanji. Instead the very next chapter he runs away and fails at protecting vegapunk. I was so hyped! I knew Sanji would lose to Kizaru but I at least wanted him to show me something.
Do YOU remember?

Luffy ordered Sanji to run and then failed to cover for him. Why is that Sanji's fault?


Not only that, we know that once Luffy got serious he was capable of manhandling Saturn and Kizaru at once. He didn't get serious quick enough.

This scene is never centred around Luffy because it's only brought up by Sanji haters, who are by and large just Zoro stans salty he was dealing with smallfry like Lucci.

This is what I mean by y'all being soft mfers that led noise override what your eyes can observe.
 
I wanted Sanji to do something. Im tired of waiting. Then i realised he always does this. Do you remember how hyped we all were when he kicked that laser and how Oda wrote the panel showing Luffy and Sanji staring down Kizaru. In your heart of hearts you all know we were expecting some showing from Sanji. Instead the very next chapter he runs away and fails at protecting vegapunk. I was so hyped! I knew Sanji would lose to Kizaru but I at least wanted him to show me something.
I remember the fandom not expecting him to achieve the feats that he did when Egghead started. Did you anticipate Oda writing Sanji looking more impressive against a Seraphim than Luffy and Zoro? or preforming an unprecedented feat against Kizaru?, or doing what he did against Venus?, because I didn't. Let's also account for the fact that Egghead didn't set anything up for Sanji, it wasn't an arc for him to do anything, same goes for the other straw hats. Elbaf is a whole different scenario, we can see the building blocks of something special coming. Now I'm not telling you to expect Sanji to get some grand one on one performance against Imu but to think he won't achieve anything against anyone is short sighted.

Trust what Oda has setup, a one on one against Kizaru wasn't necessary nor promised, but Sanji being able to be of use against these immortals is imperative not just for this arc but the endgame as well. In the arc where Sanjis parallel was introduced, showing that very ability and Sanji being concerned about having COC, with a villain like Sommers who seems to be almost perfectly setup to serve as the catalyst for his awakening, I think a little more patience is wise.
 
You'd think it'd be obvious the last one to get CoC would be a special occasion.

There are really people out there that think Gaban's presence in this arc is just coincidental.


We have enemies that can only be taken down by specific use of Conqueror's Haki, and one of them is undeniably obviously designed with Sanji in mind.

 
You'd think it'd be obvious the last one to get CoC would be a special occasion.

There are really people out there that think Gaban's presence in this arc is just coincidental.
I'm really looking forward to it. Zoro CoC confirmation was a great moment for his character but in the same chapter I get the feeling he got overshadowed by Luffy himself who brought down Kaido on his knees (something Zoro was not able to) .

I hope Sanji CoC confirmation will get the highlight it deserves, can't wait.
 

Devilbat

Just chill and let chill
I wanted Sanji to do something. Im tired of waiting. Then i realised he always does this. Do you remember how hyped we all were when he kicked that laser and how Oda wrote the panel showing Luffy and Sanji staring down Kizaru. In your heart of hearts you all know we were expecting some showing from Sanji. Instead the very next chapter he runs away and fails at protecting vegapunk. I was so hyped! I knew Sanji would lose to Kizaru but I at least wanted him to show me something.
Yeah, me too, mate, me too. I really like the idea of Sanji vs Kizaru, it fits so well, but initially I didn't expect much because I know Luffy's fight hogging tendencies. But the panel where Luffy AND Sanji were seemingly set up to take Kizaru as a 2-vs-1 battle....and then Sanji following Luffy's command to run was a really low blow. I still think we should've gotten more Sanji fights, and even Sanji + Luffy vs Kizaru would've been great as it would parallel Luffy + Zoro vs Kaido (well, there were some extras there, but only 2 SH).
So I get your frustrations with Oda. He hypes and uses Sanji as a butt monkey at the same time and this is annoying as fuck. What I focus on instead of being emotional over yet another botched Sanji's scene, is enjoying the moments he gets (kicking Natsujiro was really cool, and even those clashes with Kizaru were still better than nothing), and don't hype myself too much. At the end, no matter how horrible the fight vs Queen was, Sanji was given an opportunity to fight a #3 in enemy's team, and he's going to get such moments again.
 
To me, PoL makes sense only as CoC or the special trait of the Buccaneer race.

Personally, I prefer PoL=CoC to keep everything simpler and avoid Sanji falling behind all ACoC user (ACoC is the new CoA after all). However, PoL being what made buccaneers special and the reason unreasonable thing can happen would explain a lot. Something as important as Blackbeard not sleeping or him eating two DFs would suddenly become perfectly logical
I’ve had some thoughts recently about PoL, and what if PoL is an established power but not one oda has really delved deep into, the power of the human soul.

We know one of the best examples of the Power of Love is Kumas ability to move despite his consciousness being completely destroyed. However, what if his movement is because his soul is now able to control his body akin to Brook who’s also able to move his body despite not having the proper muscles to do so. And when you consider Brook and the shadows, a bit more about the Power of Love could make sense. Or how Brook had a similar gag akin to Power of Loves ability to defy logic and science where his body could be cracked to hell but it fully heals itself when he drinks milk. This gag could be easily explained as Brooks soul healing his body and the belief that milk fixes bones is just the catalyst to using that ability.

In thriller bark, Sanjis shadow was able to retain its personality for much longer than others and despite having a weaker body was still able to fight on par with Zoros shadow in a zombie general. As such, the possibility of Sanji having a stronger soul isn’t impossible. And seeing how Brook is able to coat his blade with his soul, it’s not too different from what Sanjis DJ does where it coats his weapon in elemental damage.

This could explain how Sanji DJ works as his passion makes his soul burn and Sanji is then able to unknowingly coat his foot in his now burning soul. Or how Sanji is able to turn off his exoskeleton and germa powers, his soul is what’s altering his body.

Obviously these are just minor thoughts about it but I think it could be a cool way for oda to expand power of love without having to completely create a new power system
 
To me, PoL makes sense only as CoC or the special trait of the Buccaneer race.

Personally, I prefer PoL=CoC to keep everything simpler and avoid Sanji falling behind all ACoC user (ACoC is the new CoA after all). However, PoL being what made buccaneers special and the reason unreasonable thing can happen would explain a lot. Something as important as Blackbeard not sleeping or him eating two DFs would suddenly become perfectly logical
I think it's going to turn out to be a Buccaneer ability that will have some similarities to CoC.
I made a post earlier this week on this thought pattern but there are basically three almost extinct ancient races in the series, the Lunarians, the Buccaneers and the Three Eye Tribe and each of their characteristic abilities are very similar to the 3 branches of Haki.
King's Invulnerability is akin to full body armament
Pudding's extraordinary conginitive abilities are similar to observation (i.e. not only was she able to see Sanji move on WCI when he save Chiffon, she can have access to VOAT when she awakens her 3rd eye)
and now Kuma's abilities seem to emphasize will power which is similar to conqueror's haki.

Now even though PoL and Conquerors Haki are somewhat similar in the sense that they are both will power based.
All it's applications so far have been based off of "protection":
Sanji "protecting" Nami from S-Shark and projecting his wil as an immovable barrier
Sanji "protecting" Bonney from Kizaru and projecting his will as a kick that can interfere with and destory light
Kuma "protecting" Bonney from the Celestials and projecting his will on his will-less body even though it had been taken from him.

Then there's Conquerors' haki which is based off "domination"
Conqueror's project their wills to dominate those weaker than them.
Conqueror's project their wills to amp up their abiliities.

So I can see Oda justifying PoL as a similar yet different way of projecting one's will power that is most likely characteristic to the Buccaneers.

Even though Sanji has kingly traits, he's more akin to "Kuma" who's more a of a "sefless" king as opposed to a "Judge" for instance who is more of a "conquering" king. Btw I'm aware that not everybody with conquerors haki wants to conquer something. Oda's not very consistent with that but I can legit see Oda giving Sanji something similar but yet distinct from Conqueror's haki via PoL.

Sanji is not really a character that wants to dominate others and this is emphasized by his backstory with his family so I can see Oda not wanting to give him CoC which is an ability that is based on "dominating" others. It is literally in the name 覇(dominate)王色 so maybe PoL is more of like a 守護(guard)王色 so "Color of the Guardian King" as opposed to "Color of the Conquering King" :DeepThink:
 
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I’ve had some thoughts recently about PoL, and what if PoL is an established power but not one oda has really delved deep into, the power of the human soul.

We know one of the best examples of the Power of Love is Kumas ability to move despite his consciousness being completely destroyed. However, what if his movement is because his soul is now able to control his body akin to Brook who’s also able to move his body despite not having the proper muscles to do so. And when you consider Brook and the shadows, a bit more about the Power of Love could make sense. Or how Brook had a similar gag akin to Power of Loves ability to defy logic and science where his body could be cracked to hell but it fully heals itself when he drinks milk. This gag could be easily explained as Brooks soul healing his body and the belief that milk fixes bones is just the catalyst to using that ability.

In thriller bark, Sanjis shadow was able to retain its personality for much longer than others and despite having a weaker body was still able to fight on par with Zoros shadow in a zombie general. As such, the possibility of Sanji having a stronger soul isn’t impossible. And seeing how Brook is able to coat his blade with his soul, it’s not too different from what Sanjis DJ does where it coats his weapon in elemental damage.

This could explain how Sanji DJ works as his passion makes his soul burn and Sanji is then able to unknowingly coat his foot in his now burning soul. Or how Sanji is able to turn off his exoskeleton and germa powers, his soul is what’s altering his body.

Obviously these are just minor thoughts about it but I think it could be a cool way for oda to expand power of love without having to completely create a new power system
I still think it would be better if PoL was what made buccaneers special and it would also make it more manageable storywise since buccaneers are all dead. No PoL bargain sale. I do like PoL being some sort of soul manifestation :specialmeh:

I think it's going to turn out to be a Buccaneer ability that will have some similarities to CoC.
I made a post earlier this week on this thought pattern but there are basically three almost extinct ancient races in the series, the Lunarians, the Buccaneers and the Three Eye Tribe and each of their characteristic abilities are very similar to the 3 branches of Haki.
King's Invulnerability is akin to full body armament
Pudding's extraordinary conginitive abilities are similar to observation (i.e. not only was she able to see Sanji move on WCI when he save Chiffon, she can have access to VOAT when she awakens her 3rd eye)
and now Kuma's abilities seem to emphasize will power which is similar to conqueror's haki.

Now even though PoL and Conquerors Haki are somewhat similar in the sense that they are both will power based.
All it's applications so far have been based off of "protection":
Sanji "protecting" Nami from S-Shark and projecting his wil as an immovable barrier
Sanji "protecting" Bonney from Kizaru and projecting his will as a kick that can interfere with and destory light
Kuma "protecting" Bonney from the Celestials and projecting his will on his will-less body even though it had been taken from him.

Then there's Conquerors' haki which is based off "domination"
Conqueror's project their wills to dominate those weaker than them.
Conqueror's project their wills to amp up their abiliities.

So I can see Oda justifying PoL as a similar yet different way of projecting one's will power that is most likely characteristic to the Buccaneers.

Even though Sanji has kingly traits, he's more akin to "Kuma" who's more a of a "sefless" king as opposed to a "Judge" for instance who is more of a "conquering" king. Btw I'm aware that not everybody with conquerors haki wants to conquer something. Oda's not very consistent with that but I can legit see Oda giving Sanji something similar but yet distinct from Conqueror's haki via PoL.

Sanji is not really a character that wants to dominate others and this is emphasized by his backstory with his family so I can see Oda not wanting to give him CoC which is an ability that is based on "dominating" others. It is literally in the name 覇(dominate)王色 so maybe PoL is more of like a 守護(guard)王色 so "Color of the Guardian King" as opposed to "Color of the Conquering King" :DeepThink:
I don't think our ideas are that different.
I would describe the buccaneer power I'm considering as a possible PoL as the ability "to will into existence" or "to just do things" :sanmoji:
The greater your will, the more you can affect the world around you. It is not by chance this is similar to what G5 Luffy/Nika can do: basically Nika is the buccaner God.

Sanji producing fire, Kuma getting control over his brainless body to save his daughter, Blackbeard being always awake, Blackbeard eating two DFs, Sanji destroying a laser. All these events cannot be explain logically.

If this route is followed, Sanji might unlock CoC to defend Nami because he needs it even though he was born without it. A perfect Guardian King :finally:
 
I still think it would be better if PoL was what made buccaneers special and it would also make it more manageable storywise since buccaneers are all dead. No PoL bargain sale. I do like PoL being some sort of soul manifestation :specialmeh:


I don't think our ideas are that different.
I would describe the buccaneer power I'm considering as a possible PoL as the ability "to will into existence" or "to just do things" :sanmoji:
The greater your will, the more you can affect the world around you. It is not by chance this is similar to what G5 Luffy/Nika can do: basically Nika is the buccaner God.

Sanji producing fire, Kuma getting control over his brainless body to save his daughter, Blackbeard being always awake, Blackbeard eating two DFs, Sanji destroying a laser. All these events cannot be explain logically.

If this route is followed, Sanji might unlock CoC to defend Nami because he needs it even though he was born without it. A perfect Guardian King :finally:
I don’t expect a PoL bargain sale. But soul power has been a thing in OP for a while. This theory’s main thing is just that it’s innate to some like the buccaneers race and whatever Sanjis is.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
I wanted Sanji to do something. Im tired of waiting. Then i realised he always does this. Do you remember how hyped we all were when he kicked that laser and how Oda wrote the panel showing Luffy and Sanji staring down Kizaru. In your heart of hearts you all know we were expecting some showing from Sanji. Instead the very next chapter he runs away and fails at protecting vegapunk. I was so hyped! I knew Sanji would lose to Kizaru but I at least wanted him to show me something.
LMAO
The Vegapunk fiasco was 100000% Luffy's fault.
:kobeha:
 
LMAO
The Vegapunk fiasco was 100000% Luffy's fault.
:kobeha:
I strongly disagree. Luffy entrusted Vegapunk to Sanji, so the fault falls on him.

Btw I've got no issues with Sanji failing to protect Vegapunk, bad things happen. What I hated was that he didn't react at all after Vegapunk "died". Awful decision by CL³⁰oda, look at how cheaply he tried to justify our boy unnatural behavior
 
Let literally anyone kill Sommers. He doesn’t even deserve an actual fight just downright execution. I don’t care who it is by now
When the spoilers dropped I thought since Luffy/Loki arrived they’d take care of it since they’re right in front of him

But Loki is so fuckin big I doubt they even noticed Sommers in particular

I think they’ll gun right for Imu while taking out a lot of the MMA’s

Sommers’ fate will be truly determined next chapter imo. If Luffy/Loki don’t cook 🧑‍🍳 him right here then Sanji’s handling him

Which with the whole “love” thing going on this chapter would be very fitting imo. Who would be a better candidate to show Sommers the power of love?
 
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