Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1176 Spoilers Discussion

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But what about Xebec's family that he killed? Shouldn't they have turned back to normal after he "killed" them?
Where do people keep getting this from? Xebec never killed his family

Also just reread the chapter

Xebec was never domi reversed

Idk what it was but in chapter 1163 when he was turned imu didn't use domi reversi
 
Is this not shitty writing???
I never get people who act like you just can't criticize Oda whatsoever. There's nothing special to this- The man just got old and lost his touch completely. It happens, get over it.
@Doggo is saying that you need to form your opinion after seeing raws and reading the chapter. Pew often to makes mistakes in his summaries or generalizes and we go like 2-3 days thinking its something Oda is doing direclty.

Like for example (im guessing) it is possible DR and being knocked out of it depends on the strength of the person being controlled.

For someone like Rocks, he becomes so strong that Garp and Roger needed to work together undo DR and kill Rocks (temporarily) but that leaves them all in powerless state in the end.

For Dorry and Broggy, they are clearly weaker than Rocks, and are of equal footing. We know they basically can kill each other equally, so when it happens it makes sense.

Now as to how they recover and continue fighting idk, but im going to wait for the chapter before I judge it personally
 
What’s the difference? I have no problem with people critiquing OP I mean I do it myself all the time

But certain things like this always confuse me because it feels like the logic changes

The community wants to have its cake and eat it too. They want tension and stakes but if the Strawhats are the underdogs or simply don’t have the upper hand then they complain (“fake Yonko crew”, Mickey Hats, etc)

But if they do have the upper hand then it’s also a problem because the villains are no longer threatening. So which one is it
we could have easily had the cake and ate it too

cause it's the literal final villain that is the arc villain. So shp could have easily written to be the underdogs

But oda didn't go that route. He instead decided to undermine the final villain by making the DR giant captains that the final villain bragged about turning, revert back without any actual intervention from the shp at all.

That eviscerated all of imu's aura, while still making the shp look like frauds because they didn't cause it at all.
 
Some people will never be satisfied, yeah. If someone loses they got “embarrassed”

If the Strawhats are on top then the story itself is Mickey

If the Strawhats are the underdogs then it’s also a problem because they’re a Yonko crew now and Yonko crews shouldn’t struggle

Pick a battle
They act like schizophrenics, there's no way to satisfy them, btw someone just called One Piece a Disney story and said they would read modulo, they probably know nothing about the finale of modulo.

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I think it’s Oda working with hindsight. Like here, he probably realized Domi Reversi wouldn’t work with his later plans if it’s this Op.
Thats what bothers me lol. It should be OP given Imu is supposed to be THAT entity. But i guess we'll see how it plays out because he still hasnt actually responded to all of this pushback yet.
 
That’s almost always been the case though, no? Thats why Oda uses the formula of splitting the Strawhats up so often

It’s been like that since the beginning of OP damn near. They’re almost never on an island the whole time together

Hell, the main plot of Water 7 straight up doesn’t happen if any of the stronger Strawhats went out with Usopp
Post timeskip yes. But pre timeskip, oda was able to have all the straw hats together and still have a sense of tension fill the air.

You mentioned how water 7 doesn’t happen if the straw hats went with Usopp, but at the same time, when the straw hats were united later in water 7 there was still tension, the Cipher Pol felt intimidating and like actual monsters prior to Ennies lobby.
 
He's saying there never was any tension in OP.
He's got a point. Aside from the end of the pre ts, there never was any tension indeed. And that was only to set up the TS.
Lucci vs Luffy didn't have tension?
What about their fight with Oars and Moria?
What kind of mangas do you like? Is there anything you really enjoyed in the past?
I'm not really picky so long as they're good. Can be action, comedy, romance, etc., I just want substance
If half of the crew was still captured and the hostages still were out of reach, I bet $5 you would be whining the heroes are too incompetent then.

Until the hostage situation was resolved...no one can really *do* anything. You can whine all you like, but that's the truth.
There can be a middle ground where the crew isn't captured but is still struggling to win this battle.
 
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