Powers & Abilities Final saga monster series: Nidhogg's real power

#1
Since the speculation about Loki's DF started and that panel dropped

I asked myself: if he's really Nidhogg, why would Oda choose to go for Lightning in specific? It ain't that special right. Lightning and fire is somewhat overused and it's a legendary DF afterall.
He could have also went with a made up inverse element, that's busted, and it would have made sense. But then it hit me and I think I cracked the code.

Nidhogg in contrary to the Azure Dragon has wings. Hybrid creatures with a humanoid shape and wings were always depicted as incredibly fast


They have top notch mobility and movement speed. And I doubt Oda would make an exception for the legendary Nidhogg fruit.

And that's where the lightning ability kicks in.
Oda has patterns and one recent pattern is, that mythical creatures with an elemental ability coat themselves in their element for different purposes



He even uses the same concept for advanced CoC


And he used it before for an actual lightning ability with Niji

And it led to a significant speed boost. Oda even went for a name like "lightspeed blade".

And it's not really that uncommon. A lightning cloak is a common idea in other mangas aswell

The lightning cloak concept is even the basis for Killua's godspeed ability. And with that in mind it suddenly makes a lot of sense why he chose to make Nidhogg a lightning dragon: it gives the user super speed.

I think the lightning cloak on top of the rest is what's going to make this fruit, even when eaten by a human, one of the best, if not the best fruit in the series in terms of overall power, versatility, traditional strength and style.
I think it's going to be the fruit, that we will put onto fruit less top tiers to imagine their highest potential.

Thanks for reading.
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#2
Loki is already pretty broken.
If he also gets a lightning cloak where he moves much faster, it is basically gameover. Imaginw hybrid Loki using lightning cloak and insane speed with that size and power...

Maybe that is how he destroyed Harald who didn't had any chance?

I would like the idea of lightning cloak.
 
#4
Cool idea; could be.
An ancient giant, even bugger thanks to the zoan (and the most massive mythical zoan to boot), moving lightning fast would be incredible.

As for why lightnings, I think that, while they were indeed used, we haven't seen a real, major suage since Eneru and in Oda's mind, lightnings are one of the most broken powers of all:

And Loki/Niddhog was really built around being incredibly powerful and destructive.

Also, I still have some hope about Loki having Soul-like powers:



 
#6
And that's where the lightning ability kicks in.
Oda has patterns and one recent pattern is, that mythical creatures with an elemental ability coat themselves in their element for different purposes
What if Loki isn't just coating his dragon body with his element but he can basically fuse with it, becoming a "logia lightning dragon" which would be HIS awakening?

Ngl, that would be sick.
 
#8
Since the speculation about Loki's DF started and that panel dropped

I asked myself: if he's really Nidhogg, why would Oda choose to go for Lightning in specific? It ain't that special right. Lightning and fire is somewhat overused and it's a legendary DF afterall.
He could have also went with a made up inverse element, that's busted, and it would have made sense. But then it hit me and I think I cracked the code.

Nidhogg in contrary to the Azure Dragon has wings. Hybrid creatures with a humanoid shape and wings were always depicted as incredibly fast


They have top notch mobility and movement speed. And I doubt Oda would make an exception for the legendary Nidhogg fruit.

And that's where the lightning ability kicks in.
Oda has patterns and one recent pattern is, that mythical creatures with an elemental ability coat themselves in their element for different purposes



He even uses the same concept for advanced CoC


And he used it before for an actual lightning ability with Niji

And it led to a significant speed boost. Oda even went for a name like "lightspeed blade".

And it's not really that uncommon. A lightning cloak is a common idea in other mangas aswell

The lightning cloak concept is even the basis for Killua's godspeed ability. And with that in mind it suddenly makes a lot of sense why he chose to make Nidhogg a lightning dragon: it gives the user super speed.

I think the lightning cloak on top of the rest is what's going to make this fruit, even when eaten by a human, one of the best, if not the best fruit in the series in terms of overall power, versatility, traditional strength and style.
I think it's going to be the fruit, that we will put onto fruit less top tiers to imagine their highest potential.

Thanks for reading.
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No tag is ridiculous but aight lol
 
#9
You kinda beat me to it,I started thinking Loki could be a mythical zoan with the properties a logia and can imbue lightning with his attacks,speed and strength or healing.

Which is easily the most broken thing we have seen in the series he would not only have insane dc and ap but he would be as fast as Kizaru.

I started to think that once Harald slashed Loki and Loki either seemed to regenerate or his body was in some liquid/logia form

? It would be the most broken thing in the series if Loki could do that. He’s already shown a crazy casual dc feat,
I would be scared to see what his version of Fdd would look like or if he can become as fast as lightning… in hybrid form

:pepecorn::pepestrike:
 
#10
Loki is already pretty broken.
If he also gets a lightning cloak where he moves much faster, it is basically gameover. Imaginw hybrid Loki using lightning cloak and insane speed with that size and power...

Maybe that is how he destroyed Harald who didn't had any chance?

I would like the idea of lightning cloak.
That's exactly how I imagined it. Hybrid + lightning cloak + lightning for his actual attacks aswell, right.
Oda opened Pandora's box anyway. So now he can also make him completely op.
Cool idea; could be.
An ancient giant, even bugger thanks to the zoan (and the most massive mythical zoan to boot), moving lightning fast would be incredible.

As for why lightnings, I think that, while they were indeed used, we haven't seen a real, major suage since Eneru and in Oda's mind, lightnings are one of the most broken powers of all:

And Loki/Niddhog was really built around being incredibly powerful and destructive.

Also, I still have some hope about Loki having Soul-like powers:



For the lightning part: Yea it's super destructive, but a lot of it comes from its abnormal size in Loki's case.
Transfered onto a human and it would be more around boro breath and Hera kinda levels I think.
And this wouldn't do the power of a legendary DF no justice imo. Ofc there's the size multiplier, but outside of it, that fruit should also be extremely powerful and broken on a human.
Hence while lightning itself is destructive I thought it needs an ability that really makes it broken, even on a human, thus the lightning cloak.

I like the other part. A lot of people speculated about some op power for his DF afterall, cause Rocks needed that fruit in particular.
Perhaps there's still that a hidden ability about to come.
What if Loki isn't just coating his dragon body with his element but he can basically fuse with it, becoming a "logia lightning dragon" which would be HIS awakening?

Ngl, that would be sick.
I'm all for it, mate lol
Oda went all in with Loki anyway, so why should he stop now. I hope he makes this fruit super busted, even outside of that size mulziplier quirk.
No tag is ridiculous but aight lol
I would have tagged you, if I knew it's one of your favorite discussions. Didn't know
You kinda beat me to it,I started thinking Loki could be a mythical zoan with the properties a logia and can imbue lightning with his attacks,speed and strength or healing.

Which is easily the most broken thing we have seen in the series he would not only have insane dc and ap but he would be as fast as Kizaru.

I started to think that once Harald slashed Loki and Loki either seemed to regenerate or his body was in some liquid/logia form

? It would be the most broken thing in the series if Loki could do that. He’s already shown a crazy casual dc feat,
I would be scared to see what his version of Fdd would look like or if he can become as fast as lightning… in hybrid form

:pepecorn::pepestrike:
Yea that scene where he got cut by his father is weird.
I'm also not excluding the possbility of it being some type of "magic" lightning or that he has a side ability like that. I'd like it to be the case.
Oda gave Loki all the good stuff already anyway, so those special abilities would only round it up, right.
 
#11
I like the other part. A lot of people speculated about some op power for his DF afterall, cause Rocks needed that fruit in particular.
Perhaps there's still that a hidden ability about to come.
I am all for Loki having soul powers.

There are hints, Nidhogg is related to the death and souls of the dead specifically, and it would be an incredibly cool power and also a chance to see it used well after the BM fiasco.

Also, as much as I like lighting, I think Loki needs something more... esoteric, magical, as the other god fruits. And the soul powers would be just perfect :shocking:.
 

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#12
Good point but I dont know if he will be super fast.
Rather, logically, Loki should be quite slow.
So the choice of lightning could be to mitigate that...
...and bring his speed back up to compete with others.

Might be super effective in long-distance traveling.
Huge dragon covers great distance by itself, if sped up more, he could fly the troops anywhere on the planet relatively fast.
And considering we are half a world away from Mariejois now, this could exactly be the plot device that brings Luffy to MJ in no time.
 
#15
Good point but I dont know if he will be super fast.
Rather, logically, Loki should be quite slow.
So the choice of lightning could be to mitigate that...
...and bring his speed back up to compete with others.

Might be super effective in long-distance traveling.
Huge dragon covers great distance by itself, if sped up more, he could fly the troops anywhere on the planet relatively fast.
And considering we are half a world away from Mariejois now, this could exactly be the plot device that brings Luffy to MJ in no time.
Yea I thought about it aswell, as to how effective this would be on his size. Thanks to his size it might be more of a balancer.

But you never know. He really gets special treatment from Oda. The way he jumps around in base is very much like a high tier/top tier human. Perhaps he's really not drawback'ed by his size. We will see

Good point on the traveling part
 
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