Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love
I dont think law girls like that
Oda used to cook with when he had Sanji do his Mr Prince thing.
Nowadays he's a lot more front and centre to lead and confront danger.
Nowadays he's a lot more front and centre to lead and confront danger.
The only arc that was the case post-ts wer wci (sanji was not present for the crew) and egghead where it was escape arc
Someone pointed out that apperantly it was mentioned pre TS that feeding DFs to weapons is a new technology from vegapunk, so Shamrock would have probably not had a fruit in his sword at that point either, and idk if Rookie Shanks already had observation killing at that point, for Garling to not be able to sense his true power.
But the other stuff is fair, the pedestal is pretty high I guess.
But the other stuff is fair, the pedestal is pretty high I guess.
Ehh i dont agree
Like look at elbaph
The only time the SH were overwhelmed were against gunko while the stronger Sh were not present
Compare this the entire crew get downed minus sanji in alabasta
Or the buster call in enies lobby where they could only escape thanks to sanji
While in egghead franky was one shotting vice admirals
They just dont get donked like pre-ts anymore
Like look at elbaph
The only time the SH were overwhelmed were against gunko while the stronger Sh were not present
Compare this the entire crew get downed minus sanji in alabasta
Or the buster call in enies lobby where they could only escape thanks to sanji
While in egghead franky was one shotting vice admirals
They just dont get donked like pre-ts anymore
Vegapunk reinvented a lot of tech from the past, DF weapons included. Ragnir is thousands of years old. The lab on Elbaph is estimated to be about 3000 years old.
We know little about Gryphon, but its name indicates it likely possesses the Mythological Zoan DF of a griffin, belonging to the same Greek mythology as Cerberus. They are in ways opposites.
I'd easily buy these swords being ancient treasures themselves, if not among the first uses of Vegapunk's technology.
Shanks was also not a rookie pirate. He was also sneaking around the Holyland, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had Observation Killing - but I don't think it would be necessary to conceal his full strength either.
The pedestal is kinda gross ngl. I'm not a fan.
We know little about Gryphon, but its name indicates it likely possesses the Mythological Zoan DF of a griffin, belonging to the same Greek mythology as Cerberus. They are in ways opposites.
I'd easily buy these swords being ancient treasures themselves, if not among the first uses of Vegapunk's technology.
Shanks was also not a rookie pirate. He was also sneaking around the Holyland, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had Observation Killing - but I don't think it would be necessary to conceal his full strength either.
The pedestal is kinda gross ngl. I'm not a fan.
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The stakes have clearly risen since the skip.
Sanji has had to protect others against the likes of Vergo, Doflamingo, Jack's army, Oven's army, Big Mom, Page One, King, Queen, S-Shark and now Killingham.
The calibre of enemies they've been up against simply hasn't been conducive to Sanji just disappearing in the background.
Sanji has had to protect others against the likes of Vergo, Doflamingo, Jack's army, Oven's army, Big Mom, Page One, King, Queen, S-Shark and now Killingham.
The calibre of enemies they've been up against simply hasn't been conducive to Sanji just disappearing in the background.
Evidently not because Gunko was not the first time the Strawhats got overwhelmed without the stronger members present. Not by a long shot.
There have even been instances where Sanji's presence could only buy time, like Doflamingo and Big Mom.
S-Shark not being able to damage Sanji reflects Sanji's strength, not the lack of threat S-Shark posed to his crew.
There have even been instances where Sanji's presence could only buy time, like Doflamingo and Big Mom.
S-Shark not being able to damage Sanji reflects Sanji's strength, not the lack of threat S-Shark posed to his crew.
I didn't argue that they were on the back foot.
I've said post-skip Sanji hasn't been as expendable for his escapades, as reflected in his frequent protection of others.
That's a reflection of the stronger calibre of opponents they've been up against, and the fact they're split up more often, which is also reflective of the opponents they've been facing.
Post-skip Strawhats were stronger than Doflamingo's crew, but their objectives had them split up, and that split in and of itself necessitated Sanji to be more front and centre against danger.
Pretty much every arc of the skip has had split up and require one or more of the Monster Trio to safeguard others, whereas before it was mostly just Sanji going off on his own.
I've said post-skip Sanji hasn't been as expendable for his escapades, as reflected in his frequent protection of others.
That's a reflection of the stronger calibre of opponents they've been up against, and the fact they're split up more often, which is also reflective of the opponents they've been facing.
Post-skip Strawhats were stronger than Doflamingo's crew, but their objectives had them split up, and that split in and of itself necessitated Sanji to be more front and centre against danger.
Pretty much every arc of the skip has had split up and require one or more of the Monster Trio to safeguard others, whereas before it was mostly just Sanji going off on his own.
We might need/get a full on Shanks flashback to clear some of this stuff up, but my personal interpretation based on what seems to make sense is:
Shanks actually did want the God Knight position. The Roger pirates broke up 25 years ago, and Shanks only joined as a Gods Steel 15 years ago. The fact that he waited 10 years to me implies that he spent time training so that he could get the position as quickly as possible, instead of spending years in Mariejois.
He left right before completing his last mission before becoming a GK, because he found out about the mark, and it does seem like he found out about this last moment from Shamrock or someone else, because he urgently wanted to warn Harald afterwards, and Gaban didn´t know either, which imo again implies, Shanks was genuinely trying to attain the rank for a reason we don´t know, so likely he showed his full strength. Him stealing the Nika fruit happens after he leaves the GK, and I don´t think it was the original goal...
The comparison was kind of out of nowhere. It´s not like Oda was doing the Judge plotline(funny enough, Garling is actually a scientist too), where Garling was shitting on Shanks. He thought Shanks was a victim and was excited for him to rise through the ranks, it seems like Oda genuinely wanted to portray older bro as stronger. Like how Ace was stronger than Luffy as a kid.
Interesting theories about Cerebus and Gryphon being ancient like Ragnir though.
Shanks actually did want the God Knight position. The Roger pirates broke up 25 years ago, and Shanks only joined as a Gods Steel 15 years ago. The fact that he waited 10 years to me implies that he spent time training so that he could get the position as quickly as possible, instead of spending years in Mariejois.
He left right before completing his last mission before becoming a GK, because he found out about the mark, and it does seem like he found out about this last moment from Shamrock or someone else, because he urgently wanted to warn Harald afterwards, and Gaban didn´t know either, which imo again implies, Shanks was genuinely trying to attain the rank for a reason we don´t know, so likely he showed his full strength. Him stealing the Nika fruit happens after he leaves the GK, and I don´t think it was the original goal...
The comparison was kind of out of nowhere. It´s not like Oda was doing the Judge plotline(funny enough, Garling is actually a scientist too), where Garling was shitting on Shanks. He thought Shanks was a victim and was excited for him to rise through the ranks, it seems like Oda genuinely wanted to portray older bro as stronger. Like how Ace was stronger than Luffy as a kid.
Interesting theories about Cerebus and Gryphon being ancient like Ragnir though.
