Cool. Still doesn't take away from what i said.

So using your logic that they are equal it means WHITEBEARD'S DEVIL FRUIT COMBINED WITH HIS HAKI IS ONLY EQUAL TO THE HAKI OF A SICK RODGERS SINCE RODGER DOES NOT HAVE A FRUIT. WHICH ALSO MEANS THAT WHITEBEARDS HAKI BY ITSELF IS NOT RODGER LEVEL, since he has to combine it with his fruit to rival Rodgers haki.

You see how both things can be true lol
It's not sick roger, just roger in general lol
also he didn't even use his fruit in that clash, iirc, so i don't know what this is all about
 
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I do think there is a decent chance that Oda won't use Loki to mega glaze Shanks.

After all Oda certainly was fine with having young Shanks lose to Harald and is okay with having him treat Mihawk in a respectful way.

Also might be a hot take but I feel like the ones who really glaze Shanks are Toei moreso than Oda.

Like Oda may have written Ryokugyu panicking for example, but Toei were the ones who had him get straight up paralysed and detransformed, which didn't quite happen in the manga (you can see him moving his arms while talking). And ofc you've got Film Red too.

That said, Shamrocks line to Loki about "It would make no difference if you were unchained" rather bodes ill if he wasn't being over confident.

So personally it's kinda hard to say as of now, maybe I'm being needlessly optimistic but still.
 
It's not sick roger, just roger in general lol
also he didn't even use his fruit in that clash, iirc, so i don't know what this is all about
No its sick rodger. The rodger whom clashed was a sick rodger.

Its why he had to rush things and begged for oden. His time was running short

Again the entire narrative depicts rodger>whitebeard. They were never classified as equals.

Infact the notion doesn't even make sense

Whitebeard is more durable, more superhuman, has a broken debil fruit and haki and yet still was second to the man that had greater haki than him which compensated for every other stat whitebeard had over rodger.

Which again Implies how vastly more powerful Rodgers haki actually was
 
@Paperchampion23 I noticed that Gunko’s wings disappeared when Imu projected out of her. This confirms that the wings weren’t a part of Gunko’s hypothetical Abyssal Seal Yokai transformation, since Saturn stayed in his hybrid form when Imu projected out of him.

Either Gunko doesn’t have an Abyssal Seal and is immortal for some other reason, or the Gorosei really do just have Mythical Zoan fruits
 
Yes.... And yet he still thought Loki would have won...
How are you not getting that?

That wouldn't happen as it'd be inconsistent for the scaling. Harald is far above Shanks, Loki reasonably shouldn't lose to someone considerably below the man he defeated
He didn’t lmao. That’s why he told Loki to kill him before he lost his mind.

So you agree if Shanks beat Loki that means Harald just let himself be killed just like Jarul and Hajrudin said
 
@Paperchampion23 I noticed that Gunko’s wings disappeared when Imu projected out of her. This confirms that the wings weren’t a part of Gunko’s hypothetical Abyssal Seal Yokai transformation, since Saturn stayed in his hybrid form when Imu projected out of him.

Either Gunko doesn’t have an Abyssal Seal and is immortal for some other reason, or the Gorosei really do just have Mythical Zoan fruits
Only gorosei have the level 3 contract, only them are yokai

But it still a mystery why gunko is young, but garling and sommers no
 
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