It's not sick roger, just roger in general lol
also he didn't even use his fruit in that clash, iirc, so i don't know what this is all about
No its sick rodger. The rodger whom clashed was a sick rodger.

Its why he had to rush things and begged for oden. His time was running short

Again the entire narrative depicts rodger>whitebeard. They were never classified as equals.

Infact the notion doesn't even make sense

Whitebeard is more durable, more superhuman, has a broken debil fruit and haki and yet still was second to the man that had greater haki than him which compensated for every other stat whitebeard had over rodger.

Which again Implies how vastly more powerful Rodgers haki actually was
 
@Paperchampion23 I noticed that Gunko’s wings disappeared when Imu projected out of her. This confirms that the wings weren’t a part of Gunko’s hypothetical Abyssal Seal Yokai transformation, since Saturn stayed in his hybrid form when Imu projected out of him.

Either Gunko doesn’t have an Abyssal Seal and is immortal for some other reason, or the Gorosei really do just have Mythical Zoan fruits
 
Yes.... And yet he still thought Loki would have won...
How are you not getting that?

That wouldn't happen as it'd be inconsistent for the scaling. Harald is far above Shanks, Loki reasonably shouldn't lose to someone considerably below the man he defeated
He didn’t lmao. That’s why he told Loki to kill him before he lost his mind.

So you agree if Shanks beat Loki that means Harald just let himself be killed just like Jarul and Hajrudin said
 
@Paperchampion23 I noticed that Gunko’s wings disappeared when Imu projected out of her. This confirms that the wings weren’t a part of Gunko’s hypothetical Abyssal Seal Yokai transformation, since Saturn stayed in his hybrid form when Imu projected out of him.

Either Gunko doesn’t have an Abyssal Seal and is immortal for some other reason, or the Gorosei really do just have Mythical Zoan fruits
Only gorosei have the level 3 contract, only them are yokai

But it still a mystery why gunko is young, but garling and sommers no
 
IDK, no one expected him to completely one-shot Kidd or get compared to Joyboy, I feel Oda is always on the lookout to give him more hype.
I would be more surprised if he didn't beat Loki in a 1v1 than the other way around.
You also have to consider that he made it onto Kaido's list without seemingly fighting or scarring him, which is interesting imo.

I will say however that the Kid and JB feats aren't quite so impressive as at first glance:
- Kid was busy charging a mega attack and was not expecting to get blitzed and hit full force. BM and Kaido in Wano played around a lot which is a mercy Shanks never granted.

- JB from what I know had the advantage of a DF whereas Shanks is a pure haki specialist. Plus you could argue that they were simply comparing JB's haki to the next strongest user they knew, which of course is Shanks.
 
@Fujishiro Zoro is clearly gonna fight Nusjuro or Shiryu after Mihawk, so that kinda caps Mihawk below Loki
shiryu is obviously meant to be a training tool for his CoO so he can have future sight like mihawk
He didn’t lmao. That’s why he told Loki to kill him before he lost his mind.

So you agree if Shanks beat Loki that means Harald just let himself be killed just like Jarul and Hajrudin said
you keep ignoring that he still said loki could beat him while he was going berserk.
@Fujishiro @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier

I do think there is a decent chance that Oda won't use Loki to mega glaze Shanks.

After all Oda certainly was fine with having young Shanks lose to Harald and is okay with having him treat Mihawk in a respectful way.

Also might be a hot take but I feel like the ones who really glaze Shanks are Toei moreso than Oda.

Like Oda may have written Ryokugyu panicking for example, but Toei were the ones who had him get straight up paralysed and detransformed, which didn't quite happen in the manga (you can see him moving his arms while talking). And ofc you've got Film Red too.

That said, Shamrocks line to Loki about "It would make no difference if you were unchained" rather bodes ill if he wasn't being over confident.

So personally it's kinda hard to say as of now, maybe I'm being needlessly optimistic but still.
people forget that oda glazing shanks doesn't mean he'll go to absurd heights with the wank. he still felt comfortable putting mihawk above him, for example, and even portrays primebeard above him too
I never bought the hype for Shanks personally.
 
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