Controversial General Political Discussion

[Uncle Van]

Reagan was tough on USRR, and we in Poland are grateful to him for that. Partially owe him our independence.

And things are terrible in Reagon's own country because of his trash policies and propaganda. It's not just his fault but he was a certainly an accelerator.

A person could save my life, but I'd still condemn him if he was an Epstein client.

 

[Uncle Van]

Comparing him to the likes of Trump or Bandera is crazy.

It's crazy to compare 2 guys with the same slogan, mirroring policies, similar rhetoric, similar goals etc?

Difference is that Reagan wasn't a wannabe dictator and manchild, and so blatantly corrupted.

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko want to do a thread on artemis 2?

Nah I'm good, but go ahead if you want!

I don't see what I said wrong here, although I don't remember the context of it.

The guy threatened to wipe out an entire civilization and these were posts underestimating, mitigating or denying the warnings long before everything started. The point is to make people understand biases and the importance of not underestimating the warnings and wake up calls of leftists.

 

[Midnight Delight]

The guy threatened to wipe out an entire civilization and these were posts underestimating, mitigating or denying the warnings long before everything started.

Did Trump Nuke Iran?

You fell for salesman Rhetorics

 

[Roo]

If people are building statues of fucking Reagon of all people, you shouldn't be surprised of the Trump worship and leniency. Reagan walked so that Trump could run.

Kind of an ignorant/U.S brain take.

 

[Roo]

The guy threatened to wipe out an entire civilization and these were posts underestimating, mitigating or denying the warnings long before everything started. The point is to make people understand biases and the importance of not underestimating the warnings and wake up calls of leftists.

If you thought Trump was going to use nukes then idk what to tell you.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

The guy threatened to wipe out an entire civilization and these were posts underestimating, mitigating or denying the warnings long before everything started. The point is to make people understand biases and the importance of not underestimating the warnings and wake up calls of leftists.

I stand by what I said. I am not surprised by what he says or does.
Besides I think I was mocking the actors on social medias who tried to get some likes. You're taking my post out of context.

 

[Midnight Delight]

If you thought Trump was going to use nukes then idk what to tell you.

You need to remember how he views capitalism as an ultimate evil

 

[Mathias]

Reagan was tough on USRR, and we in Poland are grateful to him for that. Partially owe him our independence.

I’m sure there are other narratives than : Reagan saved the world from the tyrannical rules of commies on his very own.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

So the guy has been threatening genocide and what is the official Republican party response? This is fine? I heard about 3 maybe 4 R congressmen loudly opposing this rhetoric, what about the rest?

Here in Poland we've been raising statues of Reagan, what a shame this party has become now.

Reagan was Original Trump tbh , the decay of republican party started with him.

 

[Roo]

Reagan was nothing like Trump, and there’s no correlation between his party and maga

Reagan was a neoconservative globalist, Trump is a slopulist who has no consistent world view

 

[Midnight Delight]

Reagan was Original Trump tbh , the decay of republican party started with him.

It started with Nixon
His downfall killed his Liberal Fiscal Policies

 

[Roo]

You need to remember how he views capitalism as an ultimate evil

What does this mean

 

[Roo]

It started with Nixon
His downfall killed his Liberal Fiscal Policies

Yeah if anything Nixon was what has ultimately lead to Trump

Nixon killed the trust people had in politicians, which eventually has led to this rise in populism

 

[Uncle Van]

Kind of an ignorant/U.S brain take.

Not really. Some can have amazing domestic policy but terrible foreign policy, obviously with the reverse being true. I just agree with the idea of building statues of people for something they specifically did when their other actions are questionable to terrible.

Robert E. Lee was good to the southern residents during his time and they built statues of him. But we all know the fucked up ideology and actions that fueled him lol.

 

[Uncle Van]

Reagan was nothing like Trump, and there’s no correlation between his party and maga

Reagan was a neoconservative globalist, Trump is a slopulist who has no consistent world view

They were actually very similar. It ain't all just about ideology and leaning(Conservative Neoliberal vs Far Right Populist), but about what they did and pushed for. Trump was always a more extreme version of Reagan even during his 1st term, and went completely into pure insanity during this term, increasing the difference.

 

[Uncle Van]

Reagan was Original Trump tbh , the decay of republican party started with him.

Reagan was the result of Nixon's and Carter's failures. Reagan layed the blueprint for the Republicans to run with ever since. Trump ran with it, and took it in all kinds of crazy directions to the point it became his very own blueprint.

 

[Midnight Delight]

neoconservative globalist

Neocons actually refers to a group of Communists turned Democrats turned Republican Trotskyists who traded Communism for Liberal Democracy but kept the Soviet Methods of spreading Revolution

It's pretty much a niche that people overestimate, they only had influence after 9/11 and untill Trump gave his first speech in 2015

Reagan was just a Populist who didn't really care about spreading democracy as long as American interests are protected

 

[Reborn]

Oman is pretty neutral
Don't blame them, the arabic world tried to crush them a long time ago

I am not blaming Oman. I actually liked their response. Saying this for a long time - Iran has no right to control and charge fee over free transit passage.

Heck, they even threatened to form human chains - their own civilians to be put around energy infrastructure to deter US from attacking.

 

[Logiko]

You need to remember how he views capitalism as an ultimate evil

Did Trump Nuke Iran?

You fell for salesman Rhetorics

Does he need to nuke Iran for you to start questionning him and capitalism?

If you thought Trump was going to use nukes then idk what to tell you.

There are no ethical limits of this guy. Don't underestimate him.

Trump is a slopulist who has no consistent world view

This is why people need politicization. If you don't see the world view, you can't fight it.

I stand by what I said. I am not surprised by what he says or does.
Besides I think I was mocking the actors on social medias who tried to get some likes. You're taking my post out of context.

The context is me trying to warn people in order for them to politicize. If you are not surprised then you shouldn't laugh at people panicking, simple as that. Unless you think people are not really losing their rights and lives, in which case, you still don't see what is happening.

Critics are always contextual.