Controversial Only 5 years old would be hyped by Imu

[soupongo]

With no design nor motivation, especially because the latter depends on whatever the fuck the void century even was?

Again, apples to oranges. Idk what you are expecting literally 1 chapter after his reveal. This thread is based on that, not 300 chapters of sillhouette.

Well we have his design. It's not particularly good.

Do you seriously think anything in the void century will make his motive of sinking the entire world reasonable lol? Letting his underlings destroy entire countries for no reason? He's just a generic Enel style villain version, 1000.

That would maybe be okay if Imu was like a sincere believer and kind of effective, but you have to remember;Imu fucking left God Valley. Like, objectively he could have killed everyone, but he just didn't, for no reason at all.

At that point, he's objectively a character with worse writing than Kaguya, let alone Kizaru.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Well we have his design. It's not particularly good.

Do you seriously think anything in the void century will make his motive of sinking the entire world reasonable lol? He's just a generic Enel style villain version, 1000.

That would maybe be okay if Imu was like a sincere believer and kind of effective, but you have to remember;Imu fucking left God Valley. Like, objectively he could have killed everyone, but he just didn't, for no reason at all.

At that point, he's objectively a character with worse writing than Kaguya, let alone Kizaru.

They were like insects to him, why would he care about God Valley fodders?
You guys make up reasons to be mad at

 

[Luffy is the mc]

He kinda already did.

Depressed, turf-restricted, trying to lose the fight, and he was still too far above Luffy to the point he had no scratches and had to feed him in secret. Remember this came after Kizaru absolutely embarrassed the version of Luffy which was going toe to toe with Kaidou (G4 and below), Luffy was actually forced to use G5 and still couldn't scratch Kizaru.

I think it's obvious Imu can be the exception, his speed feats already look nutty. But for the rest of the cast they have to prove they are above Kizaru after how he handled Kaidou slayer Yonkou Luffy.

Kaido was more impressive vs G5 Luffy though. He ragdolled him when Kizaru never hurt him. I agree with the fact that Kizaru didn't go all out but I also didn't see Luffy go all out.

They barely tried to fight. That's one of the reason I don't like Egghead, nobody seemed to be serious aside from the Gorosei who looked like jobbers as a side effect.

But when we go to further arc, we're all gonna find out that that is one of the bad side of G5, you can't powerscale shit with it since it's just Oda having fun. And you can't powerscale anything prior to that since Oda just want to move on to G5 mode.

So the only good parameters we have are other characters such as Zoro, Sanji and Jimbei who are easier to jauge.
Forget about Nika, he's not a real character for me. Just a filler bullshit Oda came up with after 80% of his story was already written.

 

[soupongo]

They were like insects to him, why would he care about God Valley fodders?
You guys make up reasons to be mad at

He went out of his way to have Rocks go and kill Teach and Eris, and....just didn't confirm the kill. Lol. So now that Teach represents the will of the Davys and is the face of it and etc etc, we know it's because Imu just didn't have any interest in waiting 5 minutes to confirm the kill.

For a character like Kizaru, not killing people kind of works. He likes messing with pirates, and ultimately takes nothing serious. But Imu is literally Mr genocide, when he doesn't kill anyone, it comes off as goofy.

 

[kekaro]

He went out of his way to have Rocks go and kill Teach and Eris, and....just didn't confirm the kill. Lol. So now that Teach represents the will of the Davys and is the face of it and etc etc, we know it's because Imu just didn't have any interest in waiting 5 minutes to confirm the kill.

For a character like Kizaru, not killing people kind of works. He likes messing with pirates, and ultimately takes nothing serious. But Imu is literally Mr genocide, when he doesn't kill anyone, it comes off as goofy.

Thats not true tho?

Imu wanted to kill xebec. And he DID get xebec killed. He wanted Xebec to kill his wife and kid as a sadistic choice, not because it was his giga masterplan goal


Remember garling found the davy clan hiding there and he made a game of it, we know from the past those game can have accidents, if imu wanted to kill everyone of them get killed he would beamed down there. he didnt even give a fuck about the davies there


Maybe i skipped a line but i never got the intention Imu wanted every single davy killed reading god valley and i even read it in japanese i think atleast

 

[Bad English]

Comparing baby face Imu to Kizaru san is unfair. Imu should be compared to generic edge lord villains since he seems to be one of them( at least by how he looks, idk about his character yet).

 

[Konstantis]

Oda is hyping Imu with a complexity of a 5 years old would.

What Imu did in fact? He is effective I can't deny that. In a 9 page chapter he saved all his nakamas including one frozen by an ice that shouldn't be melted that lasted what? 2 chapters? How can we validate Loki words like that?

And then what about reactions? We surely have people commenting about him being stronger than fodders Knights but no reaction beats this

Yeah Kizaru landing on Egghead had way more weight than Imu on Elbaph or even Gorosei on Egghead.

Now let's address the elephant in the room. I know that narratively there is a tendency to think that later villains and introductions characters aside from protagonists will always be stronger. But being by Oda incompetence or the way he wants to tell the story he shows otherwise.

Narratively would make sense for Imu to be top of the verse. But what happened? Kizaru seems to be more dangerous.

Ahh, what a nice touch. I remember how you were denying that Imu will be a fighter. And now, because it ruined your personal agenda, you made a 5-year-old statement. It's you the one who is 5 years old.

 

[Konstantis]

So the only good parameters we have are other characters such as Zoro, Sanji and Jimbei who are easier to jauge.
Forget about Nika, he's not a real character for me. Just a filler bullshit Oda came up with after 80% of his story was already written.

Imu was always planned since Ohara's flashback. Younko was added to One Piece because Younko are nothing more than filler characters whose role was just to make the reader understand that MC became a top pirate.

 

[soupongo]

Thats not true tho?

Imu wanted to kill xebec. And he DID get xebec killed. He wanted Xebec to kill his wife and kid as a sadistic choice, not because it was his giga masterplan goal

Nah I mean, Xebec being Domni reversed doesn't guarantee his death. If the Rocks pirates didn't betray him, he would have just escaped, and the only reason that Xebec got as far as he did in his pirate career was that Imu just.... let him leave when he invaded his castle. When he could have just used his Ameratsu booger power on him, I guess.

Remember garling found the davy clan hiding there and he made a game of it, we know from the past those game can have accidents, if imu wanted to kill everyone of them get killed he would beamed down there. he didnt even give a fuck about the davies there


Maybe i skipped a line but i never got the intention Imu wanted every single davy killed reading god valley and i even read it in japanese i think atleast

I mean, this brings us to the main problem with why Imu's writing is just straight up bad. What does he actually want? Presumably, he's planning to sink the entire world, and just kill everyone who doesn't live in Mariejois, but he doesn't even care about finishing the Davy clan....?

As pathetic as he is, at least Garling seems like he kind of cares about what he does. Imu seems to just half commit, it's kind of like a worse version of Kaido.

 

[Konstantis]

mean, this brings us to the main problem with why Imu's writing is just straight up bad. What does he actually want? Presumably, he's planning to sink the entire world, and just kill everyone who doesn't live in Mariejois, but he doesn't even care about finishing the Davy clan....?

As pathetic as he is, at least Garling seems like he kind of cares about what he does. Imu seems to just half commit, it's kind of like a worse version of Kaido.

Why don't you think that it was JB who sink the world? Imu's is the Devil Fruit user, so his weakness should be sea water no? This is why JB sink the world

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Imu was always planned since Ohara's flashback. Younko was added to One Piece because Younko are nothing more than filler characters whose role was just to make the reader understand that MC became a top pirate.

I'm talking about Nika. Nika is a retcon. Oda said it himself.

 

[Konstantis]

I'm talking about Nika. Nika is a retcon. Oda said it himself.

Ahh, I agree that Nika is a retcon. Sun god was the thing, yes, but the way it was introduced is clearly bullshit. Maybe JB was the sun god, etc., but all this chosen one fruit is clearly not even based on anything.

 

[soupongo]

Why don't you think that it was JB who sink the world? Imu's is the Devil Fruit user, so his weakness should be sea water no? This is why JB sink the world

Because he's presumably doing it again

 

[Reborn]

IMU as of now has been good. I don't hold him for God Valley. He was there for Xebec and he got him.

WG as an organisation has been portrayed as sloppy and complacent but that's not on ImU.


But I would expect IMU to do more to raise personal stakes with SHs. A bad blood between SHs and IMU is what we need.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Well we have his design. It's not particularly good.

Subjective. It matches the aesthetic of Nika.

Do you seriously think anything in the void century will make his motive of sinking the entire world reasonable lol? Letting his underlings destroy entire countries for no reason? He's just a generic Enel style villain version, 1000.

Well given what Rayleigh says about knowing the True History, its more complicated than you think. So...yes?

That would maybe be okay if Imu was like a sincere believer and kind of effective, but you have to remember;Imu fucking left God Valley. Like, objectively he could have killed everyone, but he just didn't, for no reason at all.

At that point, he's objectively a character with worse writing than Kaguya, let alone Kizaru.

Didnt he sic Rocks on everyone? That was the point. Kizaru captured literally no one on Sabaody save for fodder pirates lol....

 

[Konstantis]

Because he's presumably doing it again

Imu has the power to change the world's surface, yes, but Imu was doing everything to prevent what JB did 800 years ago. Again, he is building the Bridge for 800 years, clearly to not let the world sink again. If he wanted to just destroy the world, he would be able to do it for 800 years. Which is why Vegapank said that he doesn't know who is really evil. JB wanted to become the first pirate, which means the King of the Sea. So, making the whole world sink should be his biased idea

 

[Fujishiro]

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Can't remember.

He fulfilled all his objectives against a Yonko crew helped by World's most brilliant mind all by himself

 

[HerreraIsBack]

And? Kizaru wasnt shown to actually have depth until Egghead. Maybe wait?

What?

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Ahh, what a nice touch. I remember how you were denying that Imu will be a fighter. And now, because it ruined your personal agenda, you made a 5-year-old statement. It's you the one who is 5 years old.

I barely remember saying anything on that line and most likely was to make fun of Goroseitards. But it remains true that Imu vs Cobra and Sabo wasn't impressive. Maybe if the version we saw at Mariejoia was truly a weak inferior of what we are seeing today it makes sense if not is just Oda inconsistency