Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love
It’s not cope it’s standards 
It’s one ting for folks like @Jackteo who actually likes Super Sommers to be pushing a wings v holy knights matchup can respect that but can’t take @Welkin serious on this debate. Mans is actually saying certain Zoro & Sanji fans are in over their heads for not lapping up Super Sommers & Bellingham. Deep that shit my guy!!! 😂
Imu’s second string that have been getting slapped up left right center since they got to Elbaf but sure slap Omen on that shit and they as good as new 🤣
There was mofos actually gassing up these bums till Kiringham got neg diff’d by Sanji and co. This mans was getting dissed by Franky ya know! And was begging Sanji to remember his name 😂
but oh no! I’m a bit too gweedy to not be content with these bums
It’s one ting for folks like @Jackteo who actually likes Super Sommers to be pushing a wings v holy knights matchup can respect that but can’t take @Welkin serious on this debate. Mans is actually saying certain Zoro & Sanji fans are in over their heads for not lapping up Super Sommers & Bellingham. Deep that shit my guy!!! 😂
Imu’s second string that have been getting slapped up left right center since they got to Elbaf but sure slap Omen on that shit and they as good as new 🤣
There was mofos actually gassing up these bums till Kiringham got neg diff’d by Sanji and co. This mans was getting dissed by Franky ya know! And was begging Sanji to remember his name 😂
but oh no! I’m a bit too gweedy to not be content with these bums
Zoro and Sanji aren’t key players the way you think they are. They’re set to take care of the strongest underlings that Imu currently has available (Super Sommers, Killingham, or Gunko) and that’s where their role primarily ends
That’s usually how it goes. They may get a shot at the main antagonist but it’s unlikely that they’ll be involved in the finale of it (see: Zoro fans thinking he’d help Luffy finish off Kaido)
I didn’t say you have to like it but that’s how it’s been set up
The difference just comes down to how much Oda cares about the rivalry in question. The more he cares about preserving the equilibrium, the more vague he'll be.
And I don't think it's matter of him caring more about the characters involved, e.g. he won't tell you which Ogre is stronger, but he'll let you know Roger scarred Whitebeard.
Ogres VS Wings could've been incredible, but I never once expected it.
And I don't think it's matter of him caring more about the characters involved, e.g. he won't tell you which Ogre is stronger, but he'll let you know Roger scarred Whitebeard.
Ogres VS Wings could've been incredible, but I never once expected it.
You keep mentioning Gunko who had far better portrayal and showing than Killingham and Super Sommers, when it's those 2 who are being discussed.
Franky's news super punch would have put down Killingham the same as Sanji did. Same with Jimbes attack. It would've been a low dif at best.
Why would we assume an omen buff would put him above Franky or Jimbe?
Franky's news super punch would have put down Killingham the same as Sanji did. Same with Jimbes attack. It would've been a low dif at best.
Why would we assume an omen buff would put him above Franky or Jimbe?
Gunko’s portrayal isn’t any different than Super Sommers or Killingham’s, that’s just headcanon. If anything Super Sommers is the one with the best portrayal among them
Medals of honor, former rivals with Garling, veteran Holy Knight
All headcanon. For one, you’re assuming Franky or Jinbei could even land an attack against Killingham
Sanji’s high speed allowed him to blitz above him and take him by surprise. Jinbei and Franky are tiers below Sanji speed wise
Not to mention Killingham can also fly which is an ability that neither Franky nor Jinbei have access to. How do they counter that while he can also attack from range with his MMA’s?
Medals of honor, former rivals with Garling, veteran Holy Knight
All headcanon. For one, you’re assuming Franky or Jinbei could even land an attack against Killingham
Sanji’s high speed allowed him to blitz above him and take him by surprise. Jinbei and Franky are tiers below Sanji speed wise
Not to mention Killingham can also fly which is an ability that neither Franky nor Jinbei have access to. How do they counter that while he can also attack from range with his MMA’s?
This is what kinda surprises me when people bring up the Queen fight. Sanji could actually fight Queen 1v1
Hell, he hit a point where he could hold off King and Queen in a 2v1. Post PU he was able to actually finish off Queen and was firmly above him
He grew in power, sure, but the jump isn’t nearly as insane as what some people here are suggesting
From fodder to the Holy Knights in single combat to defeating amped versions of them with a single powerup. It just doesn’t add up
King lost cause he’s an NPC. Yes, lemme get rid of my key advantage (flight against someone without widespread ranged attacks) and fight this swordsman in CQC range
Hell, he hit a point where he could hold off King and Queen in a 2v1. Post PU he was able to actually finish off Queen and was firmly above him
He grew in power, sure, but the jump isn’t nearly as insane as what some people here are suggesting
From fodder to the Holy Knights in single combat to defeating amped versions of them with a single powerup. It just doesn’t add up
King lost cause he’s an NPC. Yes, lemme get rid of my key advantage (flight against someone without widespread ranged attacks) and fight this swordsman in CQC range
I disagree on king and queen. King was rag dolling Zoro and the only reason Sanji looked like he could fight Queen was because queen was trying to get Sanji to use his raid suit
And we’re not talking about Gunko who was paired with shamrock and has special portrayal. We’re talking about Super Sommers and Killingham who don’t have any good portrayal.
And again there’s never been an arc where Luffy fought the leader of the enemy team where Zoro and Sanji fought subordinates of subordinates
And we’re not talking about Gunko who was paired with shamrock and has special portrayal. We’re talking about Super Sommers and Killingham who don’t have any good portrayal.
And again there’s never been an arc where Luffy fought the leader of the enemy team where Zoro and Sanji fought subordinates of subordinates
Zoro fought King for multiple chapters offscreen and King couldn’t finish him off. King was clearly above him but the gap wasn’t so large that it couldn’t be considered a fight
Sanji also was having a legitimate fight with Queen the only thing he held back were the copied Germa enhancements but neither Zoro nor Sanji went all out from the beginning so it evens out
Gunko having special portrayal is a myth. She shares the same rank as Super Sommers and Killingham and has 0 power over them
The only difference between them is her special relationship with Imu and there’s nothing that points to that granting her any special abilities
Zoro spent half of Egghead fighting Luffy’s sloppy seconds Lucci instead of Kizaru when Luffy engaged the Gorosei
Sanji didn’t even get a fight
Sanji also was having a legitimate fight with Queen the only thing he held back were the copied Germa enhancements but neither Zoro nor Sanji went all out from the beginning so it evens out
Gunko having special portrayal is a myth. She shares the same rank as Super Sommers and Killingham and has 0 power over them
The only difference between them is her special relationship with Imu and there’s nothing that points to that granting her any special abilities
Zoro spent half of Egghead fighting Luffy’s sloppy seconds Lucci instead of Kizaru when Luffy engaged the Gorosei
Sanji didn’t even get a fight
Gunko performed well vs 5 strawhats. Super Sommers struggled with just Robin's clone. Robin didn't even use her demon form.
Franky chose to punch the Dream monster. Could have flew slightly to the left and punch Killingham instead. Killingham hasn't displayed any decent speed or reaction feat to suggest he could dodge it.
Franky chose to punch the Dream monster. Could have flew slightly to the left and punch Killingham instead. Killingham hasn't displayed any decent speed or reaction feat to suggest he could dodge it.
Super Sommers didn’t struggle with Robin’s clone, I don’t know why people keep saying this
It’s like saying Big Mom struggled with Robin and Jinbei since they were able to roll her away in Onigashima
If that’s how you wanna define struggling then sure
As for Franky that’s also headcanon because Killingham’s only reaction speed anti feat is not being able to react to Sanji, which is a pretty high bar
It’s like saying Big Mom struggled with Robin and Jinbei since they were able to roll her away in Onigashima
If that’s how you wanna define struggling then sure
As for Franky that’s also headcanon because Killingham’s only reaction speed anti feat is not being able to react to Sanji, which is a pretty high bar
Robin was also more focused on freeing the strawhats and kids than fighting.
Also, we know she didn't go all out. No Fishman karate nor demon form used.
And Sanji landed his slowest attack on Killingham, after Killingham noticed him.
Franky's news speed burst was also pretty fast, he traveled 100+ meters in 1 panel.
Also, we know she didn't go all out. No Fishman karate nor demon form used.
And Sanji landed his slowest attack on Killingham, after Killingham noticed him.
Franky's news speed burst was also pretty fast, he traveled 100+ meters in 1 panel.
It wouldn’t have mattered if she went all out or not.. she did nothing to Super Sommers who barely cared about her
Reread chapter 1148. She started attacking Super Sommers and he just keeps talking to the people of Elbaf through the transponder snail as if nothing is happening
Even when she pushes him off he attaches a thorn rope to the branch and, again, continues to talk as if nothing happened
You can’t use that to scale Super Sommers down
Sanji’s slowest attack is still incredibly fast. Very few characters in the OP verse can react to him period
1 panel isn’t an indication of a passage of time is the thing
Reread chapter 1148. She started attacking Super Sommers and he just keeps talking to the people of Elbaf through the transponder snail as if nothing is happening
Even when she pushes him off he attaches a thorn rope to the branch and, again, continues to talk as if nothing happened
You can’t use that to scale Super Sommers down
Sanji’s slowest attack is still incredibly fast. Very few characters in the OP verse can react to him period
1 panel isn’t an indication of a passage of time is the thing