Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love

[Etemenanki]

Except King and Queen weren’t really viewed as threats at the time either. Thats the argument I’m trying to make

A major issue that people had with Wano (especially at the time) was that it felt like there was no tension throughout the whole war. People are trying to change the narrative now but that’s not how people felt back then

Nobody was seriously worried about King and Queen. We were told they were strong but nothing they had shown us up until that point made them feel unbeatable

Sanji sent Queen spinning and embarrassed Perospero all in one kick. He was not viewed as a threat initially

They weren't viewed as threats...by Swordboys, who thought Zoro was stronger than Kaido or some shit like that.
At the time, Sanji was considered vet level, the same people were pushing Page One or half dead Jack as his main fight.
So that when Sanji vs Queen started, it felt just like an usual Sanji fight (the start was very similar to Jabra's one as well).
The problem was only with Zoro vs King, 'cause the temple bros spent almost half Wano trashing him, so it felt like a downgrade after the rooftop.

 

[Raiden7]

The CoC is designed with the character's signature color... Luffy's is red, Kaido's is purple, Big Mom's is pink, Zoro's is green.

Sanji's CoC will be blue, like his flames, but I thought it was an excellent idea for the CoC to be heart-shaped, symbolizing POL

Why not black?

 

[Chaves]

Why not black?

Because black isn't the color that suits Sanji.

Blue is Sanji's official color
The color of Sanji's flames is blue
Blue is very much related to Sanji's dream

Black CoC is represented in One Piece by evil characters.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I think Oda is operating differently here because he isn’t going to give Luffy a victory against Imu. It’s not a traditional war arc like Wano or EL. Even back on FI, the M3 fought underwhelming opponents because the focus was simply on showcasing their progress.
Oda might rush through these encounters, accomplish his goal of giving the M3 the power to counter regeneration, and then be done with it. That’s also unique, we’ve never had the M3 all acquire the same ability in the same arc.

Their next true major battles, on the level of Wano or EL, will probably be against the BBPs. That’s where they’ll truly be tested as combatants and require a real level-up. Right now, they just need a highly specific ability that can counter a highly specific hax power. But I don't disagree with the general sentiment.

Can’t really argue with this tbh and you make a fair point. Though admittedly it’s a bit disappointing given the stakes of the arc. Would have very much preferred more challenging opponents for wings instead.

 

[RollinarounD]

I think the fight will go like Mr.2 matchup

Sanji attacking, zaza get in the way, losing his haki/exo and get cheap shot by killingham. repeat

the beatings continue untill his coc improves

 

[kekaro]

I think Oda is operating differently here because he isn’t going to give Luffy a victory against Imu. It’s not a traditional war arc like Wano or EL. Even back on FI, the M3 fought underwhelming opponents because the focus was simply on showcasing their progress.
Oda might rush through these encounters, accomplish his goal of giving the M3 the power to counter regeneration, and then be done with it. That’s also unique, we’ve never had the M3 all acquire the same ability in the same arc.

Their next true major battles, on the level of Wano or EL, will probably be against the BBPs. That’s where they’ll truly be tested as combatants and require a real level-up. Right now, they just need a highly specific ability that can counter a highly specific hax power. But I don't disagree with the general sentiment.

That would be an extremely lame conclusion to Elbaf, a highly anticipated Arc. I hope sanji gets a personalized PU like always but I can't really argue against that it cant happen

 

[Hamlette]

That would be an extremely lame conclusion to Elbaf, a highly anticipated Arc. I hope sanji gets a personalized PU like always but I can't really argue against that it cant happen

I won’t sit here and pretend that Beavis and Butt-Head are hot competition, trust me. I would’ve liked for Sanji to unlock CoC under better conditions, but Oda writes these things like he’s checking off a laundry list. On the bright side, this arc puts more stock into Sanji vs. Lafitte. Let’s not forget that Sanji’s BBP fight has better setup than any other Straw Hat fight in that arc because of Pudding.

 

[Paragorn]

What are the chances of a new PU for Sanji against Killingham? And which exacly? Black Flames or CoC?

 

[Raiden7]

What are the chances of a new PU for Sanji? And which exacly? Black Flames or CoC?

Let's see. He is against an omen powered up immortal. Gyaban said that one need supreme king haki to beat them. Probably that's an hint

 

[Paragorn]

Let's see. He is against an omen powered up immortal. Gyaban said that one need supreme king haki to beat them. Probably that's an hint

I swear, if Sanji unlocks CoC against Killingham, i will hunt every single mf who spammed that Baratie Sanji panel lmao

 

[Sir Yasheen]

What are the chances of a new PU for Sanji against Killingham? And which exacly? Black Flames or CoC?

Probably expansion on the ability that let Sanji beat him last time

 

[Welkin]

I won’t sit here and pretend that Beavis and Butt-Head are hot competition, trust me. I would’ve liked for Sanji to unlock CoC under better conditions, but Oda writes these things like he’s checking off a laundry list. On the bright side, this arc puts more stock into Sanji vs. Lafitte. Let’s not forget that Sanji’s BBP fight has better setup than any other Straw Hat fight in that arc because of Pudding.

How does this add credence to the Sanji vs Lafitte theories?

What’s the connection? I haven’t picked up on any but maybe I’m missing some

 

[Hedfi]

CoCking incoming.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

How does this add credence to the Sanji vs Lafitte theories?

What’s the connection? I haven’t picked up on any but maybe I’m missing some

It’s what I mentioned earlier, oda gives Sanji people with weird tricky powers. So not the muscle man burgess or the big fist man Pizarro. The hypnotist Lafitte makes sense

 

[Hamlette]

How does this add credence to the Sanji vs Lafitte theories?

What’s the connection? I haven’t picked up on any but maybe I’m missing some

Flying pale faced feminine looking trickster with mind based powers. Also, Sanjis Roger pirates parallel is a navigator, like Lafitte.

 

[Doggo]

Wings vs HKs is just prep for Wings vs Gorosei.

 

[DarkWitch]

Wings vs HKs is just prep for Wings vs Gorosei.

Yep which means Sanji vs Ju Peter.

Sorry Doggo, but @Jackteo will most likely get his Sanji vs Sandworm fight.

 

[Doggo]

Yep which means Sanji vs Ju Peter.

Sorry Doggo, but @Jackteo will most likely get his Sanji vs Sandworm fight.

I know he will.
I posted the thing that confirms it.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Sanji can have his CoC

Just keep Loki away from the crew

 

[Awakening_coming]

They weren't viewed as threats...by Swordboys, who thought Zoro was stronger than Kaido or some shit like that.
At the time, Sanji was considered vet level, the same people were pushing Page One or half dead Jack as his main fight.
So that when Sanji vs Queen started, it felt just like an usual Sanji fight (the start was very similar to Jabra's one as well).
The problem was only with Zoro vs King, 'cause the temple bros spent almost half Wano trashing him, so it felt like a downgrade after the rooftop.

Page 1/Jack/Peros were only mentioned by trolls though, not a single functional reader thought bout Sanji vs any of those