Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love

[Juanpiz]

No

He just cant help himself but to repeat this joke lol
But his Good Moments outweigh the Bad ones in that arc

 

[Raiden7]

Yup ^^
I think he’s a pretty good fit & the fact that he can freely change his size can only be a good ting for the L4N agenda. Keep in mind that the wings only quams with it was his size and nothing else. Yes he’s a monster PL-wise but that in itself is not really much of an issue and is actually the standard of recruitment of the SHs need going forward given what they are setting out to accomplish. Teach recruiting a monster like Aokiji is also an indictment of his caliber as an antagonist. Long as Loki’s set to be weaker than Luffy, the wings can make up the gap if Oda is adamant on keeping them 2 and 3 in the crew.

I assumed that Loki can shrink himself only while transformed in Zoan form (for now only the full zoan form displayed this ability), do you believe he can do it also in normal form? I hardly believe it for now. I think he can shrink only to a predetermined level and can't go under that.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I assumed that Loki can shrink himself only while transformed in Zoan form (for now only the full zoan form displayed this ability), do you believe he can do it also in normal form? I hardly believe it for now. I think he can shrink only to a predetermined level and can't go under that.

Yup he certainly can ^^
Mythical Zoans are able to use their abilities in base form. It’s why Loki is able to use lightning in base and Yamato ice in base.

 

[Jackteo]

Soon

 

[kekaro]

No

That was funny you guys are bitter

 

[Shikoku]

I like the buffed HK

I wonder what Killin has in stock vs Sanji

A super Judge MMA ?
An Ichiji MMA ?
The whole Germa MMA ?
Evil Sanji MMA ?
Sora MMA ?
Evil Zeff MMA ?

or just other monsters MMA to beat ?

ahh, ive been contemplating on how Oda will write the CoC unlock, but seems like he will just use him overcoming his fear to trigger it

 

[kekaro]

ahh, ive been contemplating on how Oda will write the CoC unlock, but seems like he will just use him overcoming his fear to trigger it

Good point to be honest didnt think about that, overcoming your biggest fear in combat while injured fits perfectly for CoC unlock

 

[Raiden7]

Yup he certainly can ^^
Mythical Zoans are able to use their abilities in base form. It’s why Loki is able to use lightning in base and Yamato ice in base.

I don't mind getting Loki in the crew (power level wise it will be huge for S and Z fanbase) but I'm still a bit skeptical.

 

[Hedfi]

No

I quite like this Sanji joke, it's far better than the nose beed ones which we could do without, but what can you do about Japan and its weird nose bleed perverted culture.

 

[kekaro]

I don't mind getting Loki in the crew (power level wise it will be huge for S and Z fanbase) but I'm still a bit skeptical.

I do not see it myself tbh i respect @PuckTheGreat but that shit we seen currenty in Imu vs Loki have me doubting loki can feasible join this arc:

The wings are getting some disgusting upgrades unless Damajio unlocks future sight and acoc and creates his own Ultra Instinct like Goku and Zoro creates a black blade or some shit Loki aint joining


We need alot of Zenkai boost for this

 

[Royal Kick]

ahh, ive been contemplating on how Oda will write the CoC unlock, but seems like he will just use him overcoming his fear to trigger it

It'll probably be lazy, unimaginative and not impactful, just like it was with Zoro.

I'm hyped about what's to come, but I'm under no illusion when it comes to Oda's writing, especially considering the fact he never really tries hard when it's not about Luffy.

 

[Shikoku]

It'll probably be lazy, unimaginative and not impactful, just like it was with Zoro.

I'm hyped about what's to come, but I'm under no illusion when it comes to Oda's writing, especially considering the fact he never really tries hard when it's not about Luffy.

yeah, for sure, mind you that to this date there is no clear panel of Sanji using black CoA hardening, you can zoom in on some pages to argue for it, but it’s still ambiguous

there was never any emphasis like for like when Luffy showed it in FI or Zoro in Dressrosa

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I do not see it myself tbh i respect @PuckTheGreat but that shit we seen currenty in Imu vs Loki have me doubting loki can feasible join this arc:

I see where you’re coming from & tbh if there’s any doubt in my mind with regards to him joining it’s precisely bcoz of that
That said long as Luffy > Loki the wings are not going to be too far behind. That said Loki being stronger than the wings when he joins might not be that much of a deal breaker given Kuzan joined the BB Pirates and is stronger than both Zoro & Sanji’s opponents atm.

 

[kekaro]

I see where you’re coming from & tbh if there’s any doubt in my mind with regards to him joining it’s precisely bcoz of that
That said long as Luffy > Loki the wings are not going to be too far behind. That said Loki being stronger than the wings when he joins might not be that much of a deal breaker given Kuzan joined the BB Pirates and is stronger than both Zoro & Sanji’s opponents atm.

Nah, I can't agree with that
Yes, BBP are clearly supposed to be a dark mirrior/parallel but they are not 1:1, like Kuzan is almost confirmed to betray or leave BBP before Eos, for example, imo (i remember you disagree with that but im like locked in onto that) and Loki will not if he would join (even not in a "fake" instance like Sanji nami or robin given we have no more time)

Oda is never gonna break the Monster Trio dynamic, not even for a short beat, I gotta agree with @Mr. Reloaded there

Loki can imo only ever join if it's made clear to the general audience (agenda/trolling fans do not matter, obviously) that Sanji and Zoro > Loki in power, however minute the gap might be, or it ain't happening

 

[Hedfi]

I see where you’re coming from & tbh if there’s any doubt in my mind with regards to him joining it’s precisely bcoz of that
That said long as Luffy > Loki the wings are not going to be too far behind. That said Loki being stronger than the wings when he joins might not be that much of a deal breaker given Kuzan joined the BB Pirates and is stronger than both Zoro & Sanji’s opponents atm.

EOS Kuzan vs Sanji though.

Kuzan beat the fist of love but will be defeated by the kick of love.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Nah, I can't agree with that
Yes, BBP are clearly supposed to be a dark mirrior/parallel but they are not 1:1, like Kuzan is almost confirmed to betray or leave BBP before Eos, for example, imo (i remember you disagree with that but im like locked in onto that) and Loki will not if he would join (even not in a "fake" instance like Sanji nami or robin given we have no more time)

Oda is never gonna break the Monster Trio dynamic, not even for a short beat, I gotta agree with @Mr. Reloaded there

Loki can imo only ever join if it's made clear to the general audience (agenda/trolling fans do not matter, obviously) that Sanji and Zoro > Loki in power, however minute the gap might be, or it ain't happening

We disagree on Kuzan but that’s cuul 🫂
I hear you on the M3 dynamic and pretty sure I have had this discussion with you and others before but whilst I agree that when all tings are said and done Zoro & Sanji will always be top 3 alongside Luffy, there have been cases when the rankings have been a bit ambiguous, Robin & Jinbe for example, so Loki being stronger than those two temporarily is a possibility and honestly at this point if Loki joins on Elbaf there will be no way to prove the wings are stronger than him. It will be ambiguous at best until the next big battle.

 

[kekaro]

d honestly at this point if Loki joins on Elbaf there will be no way to prove the wings are stronger than him. It will be ambiguous at best until the next big battle.

That's where I majorly disagree too, tho
I would have seen your point if Sanji and Zoro were done for the arc, maybe they would have pulled impressive feats and just had teamfights or skirmishes. That would be the case with ambiguity

However, now they will fight the Subordinates of this Imus form that Loki is fighting against currently, and they are like Loki injured (Zoro less Sanji more but overall its not about hard powerscaling here).

It's a 1:1 opportunity, almost as if Oda wrote almost scientifically to scale them, too show the difference between them

So there will be no ambiguity, which also further goes against that. We gotta get pretty solid narrative power scaling. I dont see the case you making at all

 

[Rumble]

When I am INEVITABLY proven right, my wrath will be Biblical.

I'm talking Old Testament.

I overlooked this crucial bit of evidence prior.

NOTICE the sound effect for clinking metal when Stussy pokes at Sanji. NOTICE the eyebrow.

The permanence of Germa buffs and the eyebrow flip as emotional indicator will be confirmed in an SBS eventually.

Count your fucking days, you animals.

I will not be accepting converts.

 

[Royal Kick]

yeah, for sure, mind you that to this date there is no clear panel of Sanji using black CoA hardening, you can zoom in on some pages to argue for it, but it’s still ambiguous

there was never any emphasis like for like when Luffy showed it in FI or Zoro in Dressrosa

There was no need to show it clearly, him having CoA was already confirmation he could use hardening. Hardening is just basic CoA.

We could never see it with Kaido either, it's just a stylistic choice.

 

[Shikoku]

There was no need to show it clearly, him having CoA was already confirmation he could use hardening. Hardening is just basic CoA.

We could never see it with Kaido either, it's just a stylistic choice.

the mere fact that it is left ambiguous is the issue, neither me nor you can confidently sort the CoA situation out which is mad given the level of Sanji

When fought Queen, Queen literally had CoA hardening on his arm to block, yet Sanji never got a whiff of it