General & Others Did roof piece help or hurt Zoro and expectations of him
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It was an okay performance. Zoro putting his life on the line should be able to produce such feats. The problem is his fans overhyped his performance way too much. He got so injured he basically had to use deux machina meds in order to fight king. It was a good bit of hype but it was what we should expect people at his level (YC1 or there about) tbh when going all out.
As an example, we have Queen putting big mom to sleep, king tossing BM and crew over a cliff, various scabbards injuring Kaido. Kid and Law pushing BM to an all out fight and pulling out a technical win and lastly Law putting in an imperious shift against BB and his commanders. Heck even Bepo went sulong and almost killed BB when he was saving Law. All these feats are in the same ball park.
As an example, we have Queen putting big mom to sleep, king tossing BM and crew over a cliff, various scabbards injuring Kaido. Kid and Law pushing BM to an all out fight and pulling out a technical win and lastly Law putting in an imperious shift against BB and his commanders. Heck even Bepo went sulong and almost killed BB when he was saving Law. All these feats are in the same ball park.
I don’t know if it hurt Zoro but I do know that it hurts a lot of Zoro haters.
And till this day!
And till this day!
Roof top was legendary. I remember how many people here were seething when zoro showed ashura, which meant all this time since timeskip zoro had been holding back
Bonus point that zoro was in the rooftop fight while sanji was stuck fighting blackteeth gifter lol
Bonus point that zoro was in the rooftop fight while sanji was stuck fighting blackteeth gifter lol
"Oh, look what he survived!"
"Wow, he wants to protect Luffy's dream now!"
I actually like Sanji a lot. The reason I laugh at him is because that's part of his design. Yes, every single Straw Hat has a comedy gag or two, though Sanji being the butt of a joke is his own distinction. These people really do want a blonde Zoro and it misses the point.
King is just underrated, I guess. Rooftop Zoro would just upscale King and people also don't want to accept the fact that King is more durable than Kaido.
I mean all those feats on the rooftop happened, nothing is going to erase them... Big Mom shitting herself at Zoro's Enma One Sword Style, for example, isn't getting rubbed away.
Ashura is also still in a weird place power wise since Zoro didn't use it against King, so all we have is Zoro's Ashura with half his bones broken scarring Kaido in a void.
Zoro vs Lucci was overblown, that fight was nothing more than moderate difficulty for a holding back Zoro who, once again, didn't use Ashura.
Zoro then goes on to clash equally with V. Nusjuro whereas Lucci is cowering in the presence of Mars.
And then Imu vs Zoro goes the way it should have done, not sure what people expected
I mean all those feats on the rooftop happened, nothing is going to erase them... Big Mom shitting herself at Zoro's Enma One Sword Style, for example, isn't getting rubbed away.
Ashura is also still in a weird place power wise since Zoro didn't use it against King, so all we have is Zoro's Ashura with half his bones broken scarring Kaido in a void.
Zoro vs Lucci was overblown, that fight was nothing more than moderate difficulty for a holding back Zoro who, once again, didn't use Ashura.
Zoro then goes on to clash equally with V. Nusjuro whereas Lucci is cowering in the presence of Mars.
And then Imu vs Zoro goes the way it should have done, not sure what people expected
Rooftop Zoro being used to upscale King and his equal Queen?
It doesn't matter if Wano Sanji and Queen are weaker than Wano Zoro and King, Elbaf Sanji and Elbaf Zoro look pretty relative anyway
I would never wanna take away the Rooftop as a Zoro fan but I’d say it definitely hurt more than it helped (the fandom specifically)
Because it gave Zoro fans who already had high expectations for him even higher expectations after which Oda could/would never meet
I mean just look at Zoro fans reaction at the time when he was sent below the Rooftop and his matchup with King began. Nonstop complaining, assuming that Zoro would bully King, etc
Any Zoro fan that was there knows exactly what I’m talking about. Saying that King was “oneshot material” and that Oda was simply wasting Zoro’s time before he went back up to fight Kaido was a very common take at the time
Then look at their reaction to his performance in Egghead. Again, more complaints, claiming that he’s being misused, saying that Kizaru would’ve been a better fit for his strength, etc
And in Elbaf with Zoro getting ready to fight Super Sommers or Killingham instead of Imu I’m starting to hear similar things again. That he’s “holding Zoro back” to protect Luffy or something
Now this isn’t to say that all of these complaints are invalid. Zoro’s fight with Lucci felt extremely redundant and he didn’t grow from it at all, it was easily one of Oda’s more pointless fights
But generally speaking Zoro fans are a lot harder to please post Wano. In their minds Zoro should be putting up a performance like the Rooftop more often and they’re just not seeing it
Because it gave Zoro fans who already had high expectations for him even higher expectations after which Oda could/would never meet
I mean just look at Zoro fans reaction at the time when he was sent below the Rooftop and his matchup with King began. Nonstop complaining, assuming that Zoro would bully King, etc
Any Zoro fan that was there knows exactly what I’m talking about. Saying that King was “oneshot material” and that Oda was simply wasting Zoro’s time before he went back up to fight Kaido was a very common take at the time
Then look at their reaction to his performance in Egghead. Again, more complaints, claiming that he’s being misused, saying that Kizaru would’ve been a better fit for his strength, etc
And in Elbaf with Zoro getting ready to fight Super Sommers or Killingham instead of Imu I’m starting to hear similar things again. That he’s “holding Zoro back” to protect Luffy or something
Now this isn’t to say that all of these complaints are invalid. Zoro’s fight with Lucci felt extremely redundant and he didn’t grow from it at all, it was easily one of Oda’s more pointless fights
But generally speaking Zoro fans are a lot harder to please post Wano. In their minds Zoro should be putting up a performance like the Rooftop more often and they’re just not seeing it
