General & Others How will Zoro defeat Sommers?
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Eh, with King at least it was a new powerup and Zoro had to work it out the Lunarian factor on his own.
Here Gaban’s outright told Zoro that he already has the tools to beat Holy Knights.
The Zoro doesn’t know he had CoC plotline is absurdly stupid lol.
Like it’s just flat out a retcon honestly, Kaido tells him he has it, King starts talking about what kind of King Zoro will be. Zoro actually responds… and then he’s supposed to not actually notice?
It’s not quite as bad as the rest of the crew basically not having haki at all yet, but it’s up there.
Also, istg Usopp’s going to do the same thing and not realise he used CoO in Dressross. If Oda ever gets around to actually doing anything with him.
Here Gaban’s outright told Zoro that he already has the tools to beat Holy Knights.
The Zoro doesn’t know he had CoC plotline is absurdly stupid lol.
Like it’s just flat out a retcon honestly, Kaido tells him he has it, King starts talking about what kind of King Zoro will be. Zoro actually responds… and then he’s supposed to not actually notice?
It’s not quite as bad as the rest of the crew basically not having haki at all yet, but it’s up there.
Also, istg Usopp’s going to do the same thing and not realise he used CoO in Dressross. If Oda ever gets around to actually doing anything with him.
I was going to make a thread about this but this is the first time that Oda has withheld a PU for the M3 that was required. Lets look at how the PUs for each of the M3 have taken place.
Until EL, there werent any real PUs for the M3. Only Zoro acquired two skills (BoAT one time against Mr.1 and Flying Slash in Skypea). EL is when everyone got a PU like the M3.
Then we get to post TS where everyone got PUs due to timeskip but the M3 specifically got the haki upgrade (CoA, CoO) as this was the minimum requirement supposedly to enter New World. And upto this point apart from Jinbe we dont have confirmation for any other SH to have haki.
Then in Wano everyone gets a PU like in EL but only Luffy and Zoro get ACoC. And now when we are in Elbaf Sanji is going to unlock ACoC. This delay in giving a necessary PU to Sanji does not fit the previous pattern.
Of the M3, only Zoro has a clear expected PU in the form of black blades. Based on whats shown so far Luffy has maxed out with all three advanced haki types and mythical zoan awakening. Sanji can get hotter flames (black, purple, whatever color) but that is speculation and not as clear cut as Zoro achieving black blades.
And I still dont see how these fights will pan out because I dont see Imu being defeated before the Gorosei and Zoro not fighting Nasujuro after that Kitetsu clash.
Until EL, there werent any real PUs for the M3. Only Zoro acquired two skills (BoAT one time against Mr.1 and Flying Slash in Skypea). EL is when everyone got a PU like the M3.
Then we get to post TS where everyone got PUs due to timeskip but the M3 specifically got the haki upgrade (CoA, CoO) as this was the minimum requirement supposedly to enter New World. And upto this point apart from Jinbe we dont have confirmation for any other SH to have haki.
Then in Wano everyone gets a PU like in EL but only Luffy and Zoro get ACoC. And now when we are in Elbaf Sanji is going to unlock ACoC. This delay in giving a necessary PU to Sanji does not fit the previous pattern.
Of the M3, only Zoro has a clear expected PU in the form of black blades. Based on whats shown so far Luffy has maxed out with all three advanced haki types and mythical zoan awakening. Sanji can get hotter flames (black, purple, whatever color) but that is speculation and not as clear cut as Zoro achieving black blades.
And I still dont see how these fights will pan out because I dont see Imu being defeated before the Gorosei and Zoro not fighting Nasujuro after that Kitetsu clash.
That's the thing is, Zoro's "power up" was something he wasn't even aware of, he didn't even know what he was doing. Everyone was so confident with putting zoro > oden after that fight, but in reality Oden was much more efficient in using Conquerors he would smoke Zoro.
I don't even really consider it a power up in a true sense since Zoro really was just being aided by enma, yes he had to be good enough to even wield it, but still.
It's like when gohan went super saiyan for the first time, he couldn't control it like that, and he went out of it after fighting goku for a bit in the time chamber. Except it would be if Gohan had a power pole that brought his rage out of him in order to do that.
I don't even really consider it a power up in a true sense since Zoro really was just being aided by enma, yes he had to be good enough to even wield it, but still.
It's like when gohan went super saiyan for the first time, he couldn't control it like that, and he went out of it after fighting goku for a bit in the time chamber. Except it would be if Gohan had a power pole that brought his rage out of him in order to do that.
Blame the manga princess
Stick to Lanji slander.
Anyways. I dont expect Zoro to be pushed to the brink against Sommers at all, but he should get a power-up to destroy his heart. Sommers should be a punching bag. I would cry tears of joy if we see a King of Hell version of Asura as a representation of Zoro fine tuning/mastering ACOC.
Imagine a more powerful, controlled King of Hell version of a Zoro who clashed and scarred Hybrid Kaido.
Clearly the need to destroy the mecha hearts. How they do this will be interesting. They need to expose them first.
Gaban cut Sommers in two but missed the heart. Roger pirates apparently fought the Holy Knights regularly, but did they kill some ? I don't think so.
I just reread Luffy punching Sommers so hard he destroys his head. That was cool, and made me think Luffy (in Gear 5 only maybe ?) doesn't have a no-kill code anymore. Zoro never did. Sanji will have to want to kill Gillingham.
Gaban cut Sommers in two but missed the heart. Roger pirates apparently fought the Holy Knights regularly, but did they kill some ? I don't think so.
I just reread Luffy punching Sommers so hard he destroys his head. That was cool, and made me think Luffy (in Gear 5 only maybe ?) doesn't have a no-kill code anymore. Zoro never did. Sanji will have to want to kill Gillingham.
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I dun understand the point of making a invinciblity which let alone zoro none can overcome.
Though some sources says Zoro bypassed Lunarian durablity. Oda left it ambiguish in manga.
That's the kind of conqueror, which can be considered power up.
KoH DD by far has the largest Lightening streak in the show.
Though some sources says Zoro bypassed Lunarian durablity. Oda left it ambiguish in manga.
That's the kind of conqueror, which can be considered power up.
KoH DD by far has the largest Lightening streak in the show.
