General & Others How will Zoro defeat Sommers?

#1
We know that Sanji is awakening CoC to defeat Kilingham. Zoro already has CoC, so no issue there, but it would be atypical for Sanji to powerup and Zoro remain stagnant. So what do we think Zoro is going to show off against Super Sommers? Better control? More 3 sword serpent style moves? Maki? Black blades? Put your thoughts below.

Calling all resident Zoro fans
@Blazing Lion @Salah WG @nik87 @HA001 @Cruxroux @L57 etc etc
 
#3
Zoro will get inspiration from Maki and the Domi Reversi black weapons(Dorry and Broggy) and tame/kill his inner demon/spirit(possibly the Shinigami) and forge a black blade, or at the very least it's going to be a major hurdle he overcome in order to forge a black blade.
 
#8
Zoro's gonna aura farm getting hit by those thorns, coming out all blodied like nothing happened

Anyways, lets not forget Zoro just learned that he has Conqueror's Haki a few minutes ago through Gaban, he didn’t knew that.. Perhaps now that he is aware of it things become more interesting, since as Gaban said, Haki is a power that must be understood and tamed, if Zoro didn't knew he had it then he being insanely held back
 
#9
The only thing that Zoro should really improve on in this matchup, is learning how to consciously utilise his conquerors haki in his attacks.

He should be able to refine that in this fight. It would be cool if we got another hint about black blades, and I don't know if Sommers himself can now take advantage of maki due to his power up, but I'd want to see how Conquerors and Maki interact.

It at least looked like Imu is using both at the same time.

Maybe if Zoro can sense Maki being used and if he thinks it feels similar to his asura he might catch onto something but Idk.

I only say this on the idea that if Maki does exist in all things, and can be altered like Imu is doing, and it's demon aura, and that ties to Zoro's epithet as well as Asura.

But otherwise everyone can only go off insane amounts of repetition like Ryuuma's countless battles, and everyone just throws CoC as being a factor. I don't know if Maki is going to be the next massive multiplier of strength, that sanji zoro and luffy will tap into.

Or if it's just another thing to be countered, which just means getting better at conquerors haki. But Maki seems to have sentient forms, and we've already seen blades and ships for example have forms of sentience.
 
#10
It’s like if after fighting Mr 1 two arcs later Zoro had to fight someone whose big gimmick was “see when you cut steel two hundred chapters ago? Now you have to do it again... with a bit more finesse!”

Not super exciting stuff.

I just hope there’s some good choreography, plus Sommers is a really fun villain. I don’t think Zoro’s getting much out of it powerup wise (same as Luffy vs Imu). They aren’t in the same boat as Sanji at all, he’s legit useless right now without ACoC.
 
#11
It’s like if after fighting Mr 1 two arcs later Zoro had to fight someone whose big gimmick was “see when you cut steel two hundred chapters ago? Now you have to do it again... with a bit more finesse!”

Not super exciting stuff.

I just hope there’s some good choreography, plus Sommers is a really fun villain. I don’t think Zoro’s getting much out of it powerup wise (same as Luffy vs Imu). They aren’t in the same boat as Sanji at all, he’s legit useless right now without ACoC.
It's also like King though isn't it

First he had to bypass lunarian durability, now he has to bypass Abyssal regeneration
 
#12
The fun thing might be just like with the King fight, speculating how much damage Zoro would do to Kaido with that same attack to beat King, and then speculating how much more damage Zoro would do using Haki consciously, and whatever technique he uses to put Sommers out.
 
#14
Whatever Zoro learns, his Next Main Fight makes that Lesson Obsolete,
King Fight already focused on Zoro's need for Haoshoku Haki, so his Next Fight was always meant to be Someone who cannot be Killed by it,
That's who Super Sommers is, (It's not like Oda created this Fight just so that Zoro repeats what Gaban already done)

Holy Knights are an Extension of Imu, so technically Zoro & Sanji are fighting Imu,
Zoro's Power Up needs to be something directly tied to countering Imu, not just countering Sommers,

It's like the challenge here, how do you Kill someone who is kept Alive by someone else you're not Fighting?
Zoro must severe their Connection, meaning his Actual Target is that Omen Ring, not Sommers who was already Defeated Twice,

Imu said that Omen stems from Envy, so I think counter to that is Opposite of Envy which is Admiration,
If Envy is a bad feeling for what others have, then Opposite is feeling happy for them, and that's literally what Zoro shown last Chapter,
He was clearly glad for the qualities that Sanji have, and believes his Victory is Guaranteed,

Zoro's New Lesson should be a Power that celebrates the success of others,
Seeing how Zoro & Sanji Fights gonna Parallel each other, and seeing how Sanji's Scene with Gaban happened after He heard Zoro have CoC,
I believe that just like Sanji is learning something Zoro already have (Haoshoku Haki), then Zoro will learn something Sanji already have,
I think that's his Flames,

In other words, Counter to Omen is Flaming Haoshoku Haki, it's just that each of Zoro & Sanji currently have different Half of that.
Zoro simply needs to upgrade his Fox-Fire Style & combine it with his Haoshoku Haki.
 

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#15
It’s like if after fighting Mr 1 two arcs later Zoro had to fight someone whose big gimmick was “see when you cut steel two hundred chapters ago? Now you have to do it again... with a bit more finesse!”

Not super exciting stuff.

I just hope there’s some good choreography, plus Sommers is a really fun villain. I don’t think Zoro’s getting much out of it powerup wise (same as Luffy vs Imu). They aren’t in the same boat as Sanji at all, he’s legit useless right now without ACoC.
Pre ts, Zoro figured it out himself, improved that ability and learned how to ultilize it all the time, while post ts, even after using it plenty of times, needs Gaban to give him a reality check and another fight to refine Coc 😭

Oda turned Zoro into a bonafide retard.
 
#16
We know that Sanji is awakening CoC to defeat Kilingham. Zoro already has CoC, so no issue there, but it would be atypical for Sanji to powerup and Zoro remain stagnant. So what do we think Zoro is going to show off against Super Sommers? Better control? More 3 sword serpent style moves? Maki? Black blades? Put your thoughts below.

Calling all resident Zoro fans
@Blazing Lion @Salah WG @nik87 @HA001 @Cruxroux @L57 etc etc
I better question I wanna ask them is whether sanji fans will be able to digest the fact someone as fast as Imu, Super sommers is going to ve defeated by Zoro.
:risisure:
What will happen to their zoro is slow copium
 
#17
We know that Sanji is awakening CoC to defeat Kilingham. Zoro already has CoC, so no issue there, but it would be atypical for Sanji to powerup and Zoro remain stagnant. So what do we think Zoro is going to show off against Super Sommers? Better control? More 3 sword serpent style moves? Maki? Black blades? Put your thoughts below.

Calling all resident Zoro fans
@Blazing Lion @Salah WG @nik87 @HA001 @Cruxroux @L57 etc etc
As power up, it shouldn't be even a power up but.
His base stat will increase that's all. Maybe he will start spamming AdCoC instead of Ryou like Kaidou now.
 
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