Chapter Discussion Shanks who was scarred by Teach and is warning people about him said that Imus power is beyond comprehension

Reborn

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#21
I mean no harm, this thread isn’t for you. Go away captain.

Also Shanks knows he can do something about BB but not Imu 🐦
Nah

He can't do anything about BB either. He tried and failed..he snitched and failed.

He's going after BB because he knows that's where real danger is.

Yami can make IMU look like a historical meme :milaugh:
 

Reborn

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#22
I don‘t get you BB folks for real.

What do you guys gain for him taking Imu‘s place a place that almost nobody knows that exist.

Why does BB would even become the king of the world? What is he going to do? Start more genocides, implementing more racist policies or what?

I don‘t get it. Would be better for BB just to aim for PK
Davy was likely the evil King of the World causing chaos before IMU took over to set the world order in to bring stability and order.

Xebec had same dream

BB is the rightful heir to what belongs to him. He will fulfill the dream.
 
#23
Davy was likely the evil King of the World causing chaos before IMU took over to set the world order in to bring stability and order.

Xebec had same dream

BB is the rightful heir to what belongs to him. He will fulfill the dream.
Let‘s assume the heir theory is correct and then what?

Nobody knows that there is a king of the world.

Nobody will accept BB as the KoW.

Again what does he gain from becoming one?

BB is a vile pirate as disgusting as it gets.

Do you suddenly think he will become a good king? Stoping all the atrocities being the king for the people.

Him having a turn is way worse.

Him helping to dethrone Imu, so THERE WOULD BE NO KING OF THE WORLD, could be better.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#24
Let‘s assume the heir theory is correct and then what?

Nobody knows that there is a king of the world.

Nobody will accept BB as the KoW.

Again what does he gain from becoming one?

BB is a vile pirate as disgusting as it gets.

Do you suddenly think he will become a good king? Stoping all the atrocities being the king for the people.

Him having a turn is way worse
World will know about IMU soon.

BB definitely knows.

And, good king? Please

He's darkness. He's anything but good.

Blackbeard would be the worst and more chaotic and I want to see him plunge everything into darkness before Nika beats him.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#25
Not sure what I understand you are implying with this question, lol

Saint Shanks thought Teach was strong enough to be scared of him, Saint Shanks was also scared of Imu

Are you implying fruitless Teach is near Imu in power or? Lol

I think all of us already know Teach will someday be as strong as Imu or stronger
 

Fujishiro

Cheese for everyone!
#26
Not sure what I understand you are implying with this question, lol

Saint Shanks thought Teach was strong enough to be scared of him, Saint Shanks was also scared of Imu

Are you implying fruitless Teach is near Imu in power or? Lol

I think all of us already know Teach will someday be as strong as Imu or stronger
Erkhan keeps wanking Teach saying we don’t know his hidden power. Shanks knows it 🐦
 
#28
World will know about IMU soon.

BB definitely knows.

And, good king? Please

He's darkness. He's anything but good.

Blackbeard would be the worst and more chaotic and I want to see him plunge everything into darkness before Nika beats him.
What does that even mean.

Imu‘s WG has done atrocities over 800 years, what can BB do in a short time?

Like what does that even mean plunging everything in darkness?

BB likes the planet this ain‘t Kid Buu who destroys like a retard planets for literally no reason.
 
#29
Struggled vs Hakiless Ace? I see no reason to put Pre-Earthquake Blackbeard even remotely comparable to current Sanji/Zoro. Jack level is his ceiling, and I'm being generous.
Ace does have Haki, it's just that Oda literally did not have Armament Haki as a concept at that point. Which is why Blackbeard said that Ace wouldn't be used to getting hit in the new world....which is full of Haki users.

Even after getting a massive buff with the Earthquake fruit, Gorosei believed Blackbeard was below YC1 Marco.
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the Gorosei weren't personally at the war though, they're just making assumptions. They also only really said that he could maybe lose a *war* and Blackbeard ended up proving them wrong hard anyway.

Fruitless Teach would be one thing, but Yami Teach is definitely clear of the likes of Jack.
 
#30
Beehive isn’t some oppressed island.
I swear I don‘t get them.

BB has 0 aura, his ambition becoming KoW makes no sense, by him allegedly being Davy Jones heir.

Calling Davy Jones evil is also funny, because Imu THE DEVIL himself has caused so much evilness I don‘t get how Davy Jones was more evil and how BB could do that too.

They should accept that BB best ambition is to kill Imu, revenge his father and descendant of Davy Jones and have no one be the KoW
 

Reborn

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#31
What does that even mean.

Imu‘s WG has done atrocities over 800 years, what can BB do in a short time?

Like what does that even mean plunging everything in darkness?

BB likes the planet this ain‘t Kid Buu who destroys like a retard planets for literally no reason.
WG also gave a world order and stability to the world. It got morally corrupted over the course of time but hints are there that Davy's rule was probably even worse for entire world to align against AK.

BB and Luffy has opposite notion of freedom.
 

Reborn

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#34
Because of Imu though....Imu is the moral corruption
IMU alone isn't.

It's likely that 20 kingdoms united to form some sort of democratic council with no one to sit on the throne as Supreme ruler. IMU somehow hijacked this to gain absolute power. Lily leaving them and playing role in scattering PGs indicates that WG derailed from their original purpose.

So, WG runs to maintain order and stability but IMU seeks absolute order and they became totalitarian. It's willful or forceful obedience to maintain stability.

With IMU on throne, entire generations of CDs got morally corrupted.


If I have to guess then the reason WG even United in the first place is the Davy Jones rule was Absolute chaos - Law of the Jungle, a complete deviation from what WG seeks.

Ideologically, if I have to sum up,

IMU and WG have bad means to achieve good end / goal. End justifies the means.

The Goal (Good End in their eyes): Global order, absolute stability, and preventing war or chaos.

The Means (Bad): Genocide (Buster Calls, destroying Lulusia), human slavery, erasing history, and total suppression.


Davy jones perhaps had bad means with bad end / goal. Means justifies the end or Might is right.

See how BB operates and what he seeks and you will understand. It's absolute anarchy.


Luffy will have good means to have good end / goal. Both Means and Ends are important.

Davy was bigger evil imo.
 
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#37
IMU alone isn't.

It's likely that 20 kingdoms united to form some sort of democratic council with no one to sit on the throne as Supreme ruler. IMU somehow hijacked this to gain absolute power. Lily leaving them and playing role in scattering PGs indicates that WG derailed from their original purpose.

So, WG runs to maintain order and stability but IMU seeks absolute order and they became totalitarian. It's willful or forceful obedience to maintain stability.

With IMU on throne, entire generations of CDs got morally corrupted.


If I have to guess then the reason WG even United in the first place is the Davy Jones rule was Absolute chaos - Law of the Jungle, a complete deviation from what WG seeks.

Ideologically, if I have to sum up,

IMU and WG have bad means to achieve good end / goal. End justifies the means.

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This is just obfuscation though, it's always been presented as Imu's very existence as King of the world is always presented as a contradiction with the "values" the WG countries have.

Plus, what order and stability is Imu interested in? He wants to start a massive war and cause a flood that will kill billions of people. Is that preventing Davy Jones from causing chaos somehow?
 
#40
Luffy vs Blackbeard as the final fight would be sad. It's 2 people who preach freedom, yet these 2 are the biggest slaves in the manga, following the will of Nika/Joyboy/DavyJones and the prophecy/destiny laid out for them.
 
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