Chapter Discussion Tension oficially died in One Piece
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It's nothing like that tbh.
As an IMU fan, you expected IMU to destroy Luffy.
It didn't happen and we got IMU showing more than he was suppose to and took hits.
Thus, for you it became bad writing.
Thing is most people knew this is likely to happen. Infact, we don't even know what IMU is really capable of. All we can be certain of is that this isn't the arc in which IMU is going down and Luffy is nowhere near IMU's level.
As an IMU fan, you expected IMU to destroy Luffy.
It didn't happen and we got IMU showing more than he was suppose to and took hits.
Thus, for you it became bad writing.
Thing is most people knew this is likely to happen. Infact, we don't even know what IMU is really capable of. All we can be certain of is that this isn't the arc in which IMU is going down and Luffy is nowhere near IMU's level.
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I also don't understand why people think death = tensions lmao
Death isn't required to have tensions in the story.
One piece needs SHs to face consequences of their actions which often are careless, and not well planned. Consequences could be anything (not necessarily death) which adds up but there has to be some consequences and not everything turning out to be in favor.
And, oda needs to stop dragging less relevant sub plots and focus more on building mysteries (we have tons of it ) to keep suspense alive.
Death isn't required to have tensions in the story.
One piece needs SHs to face consequences of their actions which often are careless, and not well planned. Consequences could be anything (not necessarily death) which adds up but there has to be some consequences and not everything turning out to be in favor.
And, oda needs to stop dragging less relevant sub plots and focus more on building mysteries (we have tons of it ) to keep suspense alive.
It's always been like this. There were cool villains like Crocodile, Lucci, and Doflamingo, who brought tension, and filler villains like Wapol, Hody, and Caesar. Imu is not That Guy, he is weakling, both power-level wise and plotwise.
This is why Oda drags it out until chapter 1200 - to write Imu out of the story and start the final war only between the important characters.
"Imu is the final villain" is like "gear death", but Oda's real plan was always "gear 5" - to clown those who think OP is a story about "chosen one" vs the devil, but OP was and will be a story about pirates, so Teach is the final villain . Just like Usopp(1192) showed that Gaban(1190) is a clown.
This is why Oda drags it out until chapter 1200 - to write Imu out of the story and start the final war only between the important characters.
"Imu is the final villain" is like "gear death", but Oda's real plan was always "gear 5" - to clown those who think OP is a story about "chosen one" vs the devil, but OP was and will be a story about pirates, so Teach is the final villain . Just like Usopp(1192) showed that Gaban(1190) is a clown.
I don't feel tension not only in Op but pretty much in any fictions nowadays
Because you know popular characters that people are emotionally invested ain't getting killed.
I personally couldn't careless if side characters die especially the 1 arc types.
Even if Usopp dies, I'd still feel lack of tension because I don't have emotional investment in his character
Because you know popular characters that people are emotionally invested ain't getting killed.
I personally couldn't careless if side characters die especially the 1 arc types.
Even if Usopp dies, I'd still feel lack of tension because I don't have emotional investment in his character
There is a massive difference between thematic freedom and narrative immunity. Luffy's rubber properties used to be creative limitations he had to bypass with grit and physical toll (like Gear 2 shortening his lifespan). Gear 5 doesn't just grant freedom of movement; it grants freedom from consequences. When freedom means instantly healing from cursed, lethal blade wounds in a single panel, it’s no longer 'goofy fun' - it’s a cheat code. When the protagonist has no vulnerability, the antagonist has no menace.
If an ancient enemy who spent 800 years studying, fearing, and successfully defeating the original Joy Boy cannot exploit a single weakness, then the concept of vulnerability in One Piece is officially dead.
If an ancient enemy who spent 800 years studying, fearing, and successfully defeating the original Joy Boy cannot exploit a single weakness, then the concept of vulnerability in One Piece is officially dead.
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One thing that also helped killed any sense of tension is that Luffy and the Straw Hats, aside from Saobody, and many other characters never face any negative consequence that are the results of their actions, even despite Luffy's countless reckless and stupid actions which should have brought so many problems to him and his crew, and he never mature and learns to tone down on his recklessness.
Imu is just not that strong, Luffy ending up in a Dangerous Situation is decided by Author as much as saving him,
Yes, Oda made Luffy survive those serious stabs, but He also prevented Luffy & Loki from fighting together as soon as Imu arrives,
It evens out.
It's no different than Luffy surviving when Arlong sent him underwater, but that entire Scene could have been avoided in first place, and We just directly have Luffy vs Arlong Duel, or when Mr. 3 Captured SHs ... etc Author forces his Characters in Danger, and then forces them out of it,
Plot Armor instead is when MCs don't have any cards to play, and yet Author pulls a heart of cards out of his ass & saves them, but that's not the case in Elbaph, Imu is simply not that Powerful, both Elbaph Side & Imu Side could win this even if Imu have a slight advantage due to his Powers being Unknown mostly,
I only expect tension when Oda brings a Threat that MCs have no possible play against,
Such as Mihawk arriving in Baratie, Kuzan meeting SHs, Kuma confronting them after Moria Battle, WB's Side started losing ... etc
The only thing saving SHs was those Villains sparing them, but not before They gave them a Reality Check & memorable Moments,
Imu isn't such Threat, He is just Elbaph Villain, even his Motivation is that He needs "Help" (More Military Power),
We haven't even seen Elbaph's Heaven World, so be patient & wait for Oda to Introduce a bigger Threat than Imu.
Yes, Oda made Luffy survive those serious stabs, but He also prevented Luffy & Loki from fighting together as soon as Imu arrives,
It evens out.
It's no different than Luffy surviving when Arlong sent him underwater, but that entire Scene could have been avoided in first place, and We just directly have Luffy vs Arlong Duel, or when Mr. 3 Captured SHs ... etc Author forces his Characters in Danger, and then forces them out of it,
Plot Armor instead is when MCs don't have any cards to play, and yet Author pulls a heart of cards out of his ass & saves them, but that's not the case in Elbaph, Imu is simply not that Powerful, both Elbaph Side & Imu Side could win this even if Imu have a slight advantage due to his Powers being Unknown mostly,
I only expect tension when Oda brings a Threat that MCs have no possible play against,
Such as Mihawk arriving in Baratie, Kuzan meeting SHs, Kuma confronting them after Moria Battle, WB's Side started losing ... etc
The only thing saving SHs was those Villains sparing them, but not before They gave them a Reality Check & memorable Moments,
Imu isn't such Threat, He is just Elbaph Villain, even his Motivation is that He needs "Help" (More Military Power),
We haven't even seen Elbaph's Heaven World, so be patient & wait for Oda to Introduce a bigger Threat than Imu.