Future Events If Doflamingo returns do you think the rest of the Doflamingo Pirates will as well?
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Trebol, Giolla, Lao G, Senor Pink & Machvice would probably retire from piracy,
Buffalo, Dellinger, Sugar would change careers too,
Only ones who are neither old nor out of shape nor young are Gladius, Diamante & Pica,
But unlike Daz Bonez, We've already seen Pica use his Ultimate Form, and Diamante was basically a Villain of his own Sub-Story, the way He was Defeated, He really shouldn't come back imo, and Gladius is not that Strong to be Doffy's Right-Hand Man,
Imo Doffy's Crew shouldn't come back.
Buffalo, Dellinger, Sugar would change careers too,
Only ones who are neither old nor out of shape nor young are Gladius, Diamante & Pica,
But unlike Daz Bonez, We've already seen Pica use his Ultimate Form, and Diamante was basically a Villain of his own Sub-Story, the way He was Defeated, He really shouldn't come back imo, and Gladius is not that Strong to be Doffy's Right-Hand Man,
Imo Doffy's Crew shouldn't come back.
But.
If Doffy ends up joining CG as Croc's analog (underworld connections, arms-dealer, shady schemes):
1. he could round up CG's connection with his CD ties, allowing them to make deals even Croc himself couldn't;
2. his old crew could enlarge Buggy's army (Oda could even turn it into a joke and pair every Baroque Worker member still around with their upgraded Doffy Family version, like Miss Valentine with Machvice);
and, more importantly,
3. Oda could introduce a new right-hand-man for Doffy as a mole inside the Marines, someone like Vergo was, which would grant CG inside knowledge on Akainu and/or SWORD's moves during the Final War.
I'm not saying Doffy will for sure return.
But if he does, I see a lot more potential for him as a CG operative, rather than a HK.
If Doffy ends up joining CG as Croc's analog (underworld connections, arms-dealer, shady schemes):
1. he could round up CG's connection with his CD ties, allowing them to make deals even Croc himself couldn't;
2. his old crew could enlarge Buggy's army (Oda could even turn it into a joke and pair every Baroque Worker member still around with their upgraded Doffy Family version, like Miss Valentine with Machvice);
and, more importantly,
3. Oda could introduce a new right-hand-man for Doffy as a mole inside the Marines, someone like Vergo was, which would grant CG inside knowledge on Akainu and/or SWORD's moves during the Final War.
I'm not saying Doffy will for sure return.
But if he does, I see a lot more potential for him as a CG operative, rather than a HK.
The potential is high indeed & it would be really cool to see some members team-up, and I agree that it would make more sense for Doffy to bring value to Cross Guild by recruiting his allies & making new deals rather just being another Powerful Fighter joining their Ranks,
However, that's only if we think of Doffy's Family as an extension of him, and don't think of them as Individuals with their own Stories, I think Oda is more of a second type, look how He treated Helmeppo, Jango, Hatchan, Baroque Works Agents (Beside Daz), Gedatsu, Wadatsumi, Ulti/Page One ... etc
Oda doesn't treat all henchmen like that but the idea is that when They deserve a new life, and they finally are closer to it than ever, why deny them? Most Doffy's Crew are either Out of Shape or Oldies or Kids, and He already wrote an exit for Vergo, Monet, Baby 5, Bellamy & Viola, so no reason to bring the rest,
Daz Bonez was the exception cuz He was basically a Super Rookie, and a Legendary Fighter no different than Rob Lucci or Wyper or Zombie Ryuma, people forget that Sabaody Supernova were not always planned (At least their Introduction & Fame, but the Characters could still have been planned), so original rookie rivals of Luffy/Zoro were likes of Smoker, Mr. 1, Wyper, Lucci, Kaku & Sentomaru,
Edit: I don't think Cross Guild only have Crocodile/Mr. 1 & Mihawk, I'm pretty sure They already recruited very powerful henchmen from Underworld, Oda gonna Introduce a completely new set of villains to serve them
However, that's only if we think of Doffy's Family as an extension of him, and don't think of them as Individuals with their own Stories, I think Oda is more of a second type, look how He treated Helmeppo, Jango, Hatchan, Baroque Works Agents (Beside Daz), Gedatsu, Wadatsumi, Ulti/Page One ... etc
Oda doesn't treat all henchmen like that but the idea is that when They deserve a new life, and they finally are closer to it than ever, why deny them? Most Doffy's Crew are either Out of Shape or Oldies or Kids, and He already wrote an exit for Vergo, Monet, Baby 5, Bellamy & Viola, so no reason to bring the rest,
Daz Bonez was the exception cuz He was basically a Super Rookie, and a Legendary Fighter no different than Rob Lucci or Wyper or Zombie Ryuma, people forget that Sabaody Supernova were not always planned (At least their Introduction & Fame, but the Characters could still have been planned), so original rookie rivals of Luffy/Zoro were likes of Smoker, Mr. 1, Wyper, Lucci, Kaku & Sentomaru,
Edit: I don't think Cross Guild only have Crocodile/Mr. 1 & Mihawk, I'm pretty sure They already recruited very powerful henchmen from Underworld, Oda gonna Introduce a completely new set of villains to serve them
I get that, and I'd mostly agree with it if it weren't for the EH arc. The world at large has just found out about the flood, with a potentially new one happening soon. If every island is threatened by IMU/the WG, would those Doffy Family members who haven't been written off already (so anyone except Vergo, Monet, Baby 5, and Bellamy) not decide to support their previous master in trying to stop said flood?
Fair point, but I think it makes more sense for Senor Pink to stay with his Lover & try to protect/transport her to a bridge or wherever People are gonna think it's safe to hide, don't you agree?
Pica would be better at Fighting (We've already seen his Limit) or saving his friends with his Power? Same for Buffalo?
Would Oda really draw Lao G & Giolla who are over 60 fight or They instead just wanna be safe?
Senor Pink's Backstory was only drawn cuz an Editor told Oda to include it, so He might have thought of Backstories of other Members too, and why They are such Weirdos, giving them a reason to Live beyond just being Doffy's Henchmen, (Like Baby 5)
Every Crew follows a Theme, Doffy's Crew are like him, They were really hurt in their childhood & They just wanted a New Family, They are basically Villain Versions of WB, you think Trebol's Chains don't have a Backstory? You think Pica wasn't bullied for his voice? Sugar trapped in her child body? Diamante's desire to be complimented & approved? They are all no different than Pink & Baby 5,
All I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense that "All" of them are coming back, and if not All, then why bother with few? None of them stands out from rest, Oda can treat them all the same & it won't look unjust.
Also, remember that Doffy was supposed to be Kaidou's Joker Card, so most Doffy's Henchmen weren't really planned, I don't think They were supposed to appear in Wano, even Big Mom wasn't allowed to have more than 1 Henchman there, so They really were only created for Dressrosa,
Pica would be better at Fighting (We've already seen his Limit) or saving his friends with his Power? Same for Buffalo?
Would Oda really draw Lao G & Giolla who are over 60 fight or They instead just wanna be safe?
Senor Pink's Backstory was only drawn cuz an Editor told Oda to include it, so He might have thought of Backstories of other Members too, and why They are such Weirdos, giving them a reason to Live beyond just being Doffy's Henchmen, (Like Baby 5)
Every Crew follows a Theme, Doffy's Crew are like him, They were really hurt in their childhood & They just wanted a New Family, They are basically Villain Versions of WB, you think Trebol's Chains don't have a Backstory? You think Pica wasn't bullied for his voice? Sugar trapped in her child body? Diamante's desire to be complimented & approved? They are all no different than Pink & Baby 5,
All I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense that "All" of them are coming back, and if not All, then why bother with few? None of them stands out from rest, Oda can treat them all the same & it won't look unjust.
Also, remember that Doffy was supposed to be Kaidou's Joker Card, so most Doffy's Henchmen weren't really planned, I don't think They were supposed to appear in Wano, even Big Mom wasn't allowed to have more than 1 Henchman there, so They really were only created for Dressrosa,
i always thought imu would use sugar as a vessel due to her non aging body. doffy will certainly get released form impel down, but instead of those crewmates that bitterly disappointed him i think he will take weevil with hm to crossguild. he will assume that he can use him for his own ends, but weevil will end up best friends with buggy insead...
Daz Bonez was Extremely Powerful even Pre-Timeskip, people forget that cuz the focus was on Zoro dealing with his Defense, but that's exactly why Daz lost, He didn't believe Zoro could Cut him so He wasn't trying to counter with his Techniques and finishing moves except when Zoro threw a Building at him and what a Technique it was, He only got serious offensively couple times and both times it ended very ugly for Zoro,
At the End, Daz simply dashed to finish off Zoro with a basic attack, it was basically his shigan, cuz from his perpsective Zoro is dying and can't hurt him, but He ended up wrong,
If they had a rematch full health while keeping Zoro's Upgrades, the fight wd still have been extremely scary for Zoro and close one,
For Post-TS, I don't see Daz any different than Post-TS Rob Lucci if not better due to Crocodile teaching him Awakening,
If a War unfolds, only YC1 Fighters or above can go deal with him, the rest shd avoid him imo.
At the End, Daz simply dashed to finish off Zoro with a basic attack, it was basically his shigan, cuz from his perpsective Zoro is dying and can't hurt him, but He ended up wrong,
If they had a rematch full health while keeping Zoro's Upgrades, the fight wd still have been extremely scary for Zoro and close one,
For Post-TS, I don't see Daz any different than Post-TS Rob Lucci if not better due to Crocodile teaching him Awakening,
If a War unfolds, only YC1 Fighters or above can go deal with him, the rest shd avoid him imo.
