Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

He sort of has to get ACoC though. Only way to defeat them

If you’re so much stronger than them, can’t you just knock them into water and drown them?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

This means Sanji must be around the lower end of YC1 or high YC2, I'd place him as strong as post-WCI Luffy. I don't see Oda allowing these bums to ragdoll Marco like this.

@Sir Yasheen Does he remember that Sanji fought Queen and King at the same time just like Marco did, before he even got the exoskeleton?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Sanji was never stronger than Zoro though?

I meant that even if he WERE stronger than Zoro, it wouldn't matter. It was a hypothetical situation

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

If you’re so much stronger than them, can’t you just knock them into water and drown them?

They could just be brought back to Elbaf with Imu's help

 

[Shikoku]

I thought he was around Marco level tbh but his performance against Killingham has been horrendous.

Sommers and Killingham rn are giving high YC1, I only say that as there is no chance Zoro is treating inbetweeners like say Yamato or Law like how he's done Sommers.

Sanji is currently outright losing to Killingham, not just because he doesn't have CoC — he's downright getting tagged constantly and he's canonically lost multiple times already. This is a stark contrast to Zoro, who was fodderising Sommers even when he wasn't using CoC and didn't get so much as a single scratch. Whereas Sommers was inferior to Zoro regardless of CoC, Killingham is currently superior to Sanji. The spoilers even say Nightmare Killingham landed another major hit on Sanji.

This means Sanji must be around the lower end of YC1 or high YC2, I'd place him as strong as post-WCI Luffy. I don't see Oda allowing these bums to ragdoll Marco like this.

my god, your bias reeks…

read 1193 again, both Kham and Sommers were just trashed by the wings but in Khams case it ALWAYS clear that Sanji has no CoC so Kham ignored it all and wore down compared to Sommers who was vigilant of Zoro’s coc

Kham was beaten like 3 times by Sanji on panel, but the lack of CoC makes it all futile

How are we suddenly ignoring that Sommers swatted KoH away like a fly and constantly fretting of Zoros CoC while Sanji literally landing several finishers on Kham

not that it’s matter, it’s abundantly clear that both wings will join the Imu battle

zoro who apparently lol diffed sommers &
sanji who lost to Kham

The state of the temple is miserable

 

[Sir Yasheen]

To be clear, is this what you're seriously tryna gas rn?

Spoiler

This feat is so mid lmao, idk why you're calling it inconsistent as if it's something special to Sanji when he's literally sharing the feat with G3 Luffy 😂 Blocking an unbelievably low-end attack from Big Mom with help is not impressive, this feat isn't even half as impressive as Jinbe's feats against Big Mom.

Furthermore, this feat has absolutely nothing to do with Sanji's upcoming power-up. Sanji's power-up will be that he's harder to tag as previously he fought with little regard for his body. It's a defensive power-up.

This feat against Big Mom is an offensive feat that has no relation to Sanji dodging or successfully defending against more attacks lol.

Imagine calling this mid when Zoro got electrocuted by making contact with Carrot…

Read Ivankovs line “Love is a type of Defense”

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Sanji will master both CoO and CoC this arc
Theres no reason for sanji and zolo to be weaker than 80 year old gaban anymore
Next arc we shouldnt have another gaban saving the day
They should become big dogs already, its time
Theres no need to stall it anymore

I suppose when we are nearly 1200 chapters into the series, Oda has the right to speed track it.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Still better written than CoC

Okay, so let's say as Luffy is fighting Imu, suddenly he creates golden fire, which I'll call "cosmic flame", an ability only the Gods themselves could use. Would you say that's well-written?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Didn’t Marco block an even stronger attack from BM?

Whether it’s stronger is anyone’s guess it’s a one homie attack against full power big mom. Probably equal in strength. But Marco used flames that specifically counter fire like Prometheus

 

[Fujishiro]

What will be better written, Avengers: Doomsday or The Last Titan?

The last titan if its anything like Legion.

 

[Fujishiro]

I'm so confused, why Sargeras of all people?

Hes cool, love his backstory and motives.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Are we really going to see a character infuse conquerors Haki into Observation Haki? That would be interesting, but Killingham still has to be Hit with Conquerors to be defeated so……. Hmmmmmm. Idk where we’re headed with this fight tbh.

Shanks has some power called "observation killing", from RED'S supplementary info. That's probably that.

 

[vikas]

At this point I am pretty sure AI will create a better comic

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

What will be better written, Avengers: Doomsday or The Last Titan?

Trick question. Minus Zero is better than both

 

[Fujishiro]

Trick question. Minus Zero is better than both

I have faith in a proper conclusion to the World Soul Saga. If Sargeras and Illidan,etc come back we might get a cool story.

 

[pg13]

Shanks has some power called "observation killing", from RED'S supplementary info. That's probably that.

It also could be a Speed Based Conquerors Haki that we haven’t seen before.

 

[Shiroyru]

Okay, so let's say as Luffy is fighting Imu, suddenly he creates golden fire, which I'll call "cosmic flame", an ability only the Gods themselves could use. Would you say that's well-written?

Sounds about as well written as CoC

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I have faith in a proper conclusion to the World Soul Saga. If Sargeras and Illidan,etc come back we might get a cool story.

Is that world of warcraft stuff? I've never been into that although it seems cool

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

It also could be a Speed Based Conquerors Haki that we haven’t seen before.

Very high expectations. Very high expectations.

 

[Shiroyru]

Trick question. Minus Zero is better than both

Probably. It’s funny because Marvel’s last 3 movies have been pretty good (Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, and BND), but I still have no hype for Doomsday because it’s so obvious that Doomsday is just gonna be nostalgiaslop. All that I’m looking forward to are RDJ’s performance as Doom and seeing what role Doom’s 4 witches (Strange, Wanda, Sylvie, and Clea) will play.