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Jinbe is most likely going to beat Jack this arc. And it's not even going to be an extreme diff fight (like vs. Ace where he fought for 5 days). How will that change Doffy's powerlevel?
Cinera
She was compared to Doflamingo and possesses all 3 haki (the only other warlord known to do so). Her (much weaker) sisters can also use advanced COA, and she leads a tribe of COA specialists. Her COA is probably much stronger than Doffy's. I wouldn't sleep on the Snake princess just yet.
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Cinera
> Jinbe is most likely going to beat Jack this arc.
> How will that change Doffy's powerlevel?
If this does indeed happen (not yet convinced it will), I would consider it decent evidence Doffy was above YC 3 level. One could also postulate that Jinbe became stronger after joining the SHs, but there has been no indication of that.
> How will that change Doffy's powerlevel?
If this does indeed happen (not yet convinced it will), I would consider it decent evidence Doffy was above YC 3 level. One could also postulate that Jinbe became stronger after joining the SHs, but there has been no indication of that.
Elder Lee Hung
Her sisters advanced CoA didn’t help them from getting played with by luffy though lol. Though impressively luffy couldn’t really injure them (Because of their Zoans)?
But the point is, Hancock can stronger than her sisters while simultaneously being weaker than jinbe.
But the point is, Hancock can stronger than her sisters while simultaneously being weaker than jinbe.
Elder Lee Hung
CoC is awesome from a story telling perspective but after Chinjao got freaking smashed by Lao G, CoC isn’t necessarily a strength hype.
Cinera
@Admiral Lee Hung I already thought Hancock was well above Jimbe before it was revealed that she probably has advanced COA. That elevates her even further.
Cinera
Prime Chinjao split a(n ice) continent; he has COC because he had the potential to be an absolute beast, and he was one in his prime.
Cinera
Hancock and Doffy are still the only warlords confirmed to have COC.
Cinera
> If we were to do the math it would make Yoru's slash look way inferior
@critical mindset: no. The iceberg slash dwarfs Hody's watershot by several orders of magnitude. People on NF have done the calcs, and I've seen them and they weren't close. Honestly, I'm tired of entertaining this, yes it was impressive, no, it was nothing compared to the iceberg slash.
@critical mindset: no. The iceberg slash dwarfs Hody's watershot by several orders of magnitude. People on NF have done the calcs, and I've seen them and they weren't close. Honestly, I'm tired of entertaining this, yes it was impressive, no, it was nothing compared to the iceberg slash.
Elder Lee Hung
@Cinera i question if advanced CoA is as relevant as we think, Luffy was tanking Sentomaru’s and the Boa Sisters attacks with literally the most minor injuries possible. Advanced CoA really might only be as strong as advanced Koka, just with the added penetration aspect.
Cinera
@critical mindset: This is a calc of Hody's watershot:
https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/speed-of-hodys-water-shot-using-momentum-part-2.16018/
You can take the high end, find the kinetic energy of the watershot and then compare it to the iceberg slash. It would still come in at several orders of magnitude less than the Iceberg slash.
https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/speed-of-hodys-water-shot-using-momentum-part-2.16018/
You can take the high end, find the kinetic energy of the watershot and then compare it to the iceberg slash. It would still come in at several orders of magnitude less than the Iceberg slash.
Cinera
@Admiral Lee Hung I think you're very wrong on that. Barrier Advanced COA is a very powerful defense. Sentomaru and the Boa Sisters just didn't have that much offensive power behind their blows (those focused on reflecting the energy back at you). Luffy's training to get it suggests how powerful it is.
Cinera
@Admiral Lee Hung, @critical mindset the short answer is that not that much energy is needed for a bullet (what the watershot basically is) to travel that far and pierce through that much bedrock. A bullet is really tiny. What it's destroying is only a small cross section.
Elder Lee Hung
Sounds like the exact amount of hype being FS tbh, and FS is great and all but as we’ve seen, FS can be circumvented.
Cinera
The attack is pretty powerful, but in sheer destructive capacity, the iceberg slash and ISDS are on another realm entirely. The scale involved is far too different.
Elder Lee Hung
If it halved in speed from just the fishman and then still flew Across an island piercing through bedrock across the way, Hody had to have thrown it far harder than that lol.