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Cinera

Anyway, there are tons of ISDS calcs that all give values in the tens of megatons; bringing more wouldn't make it any more convincing than it already is.

C

critical mindset

It’s easy to get clown calculations if you make arguments like a water bullet piercing the fishman drops it’s momentum down from 41 Mach to 16 Mach. That’s apparently the calc you wanted to use to downplay Hody’s feat. If that’s the thing that passes around here then don’t call me shocked when you throw big numbers around. Billions of tons depends on how tall Pica is and the “correction” still throws a crazy number

Cinera

@critical mindset dropping from 41 mach to 26 mach upon piercing through a human being is not at all unreasonable as far as I can tell. I don't understand the physics thrre very well though.

I did do a very wanked calculation to satisfy you, sn the final result still came in at 11 - 12 orders of magnitude below ISDS. My wanked calculation was crazy wanked, so more realistic estimates would be even higher.

Cinera

Besides, as far as I can tell, you didn't raise any good arguments against eben the outdated wrong values. You just laughed that you can't believe it.

The updated calc uses a radius of 8.8 km for Dressrosa. The crazy result is simply accurate.

C

critical mindset

2769m or whatever it was, I think that’s a pretty darn high estimate lol just a ballpark eyeball estimate would be around a kilometre tops. I haven’t looked into this at depth but I wouldn’t trust the guy who threw that 6900m around to sit the right way on a toilet seat, and as for the correction that’s also way wrong just from a simple glance. 2769 that has to be brought down. I’ll look into this more in-depth

Cinera

Laughing in disbelief and calling the calculation a clown calc is not a counterargument.

Cinera

@critical mindset I don't trust your eyeball estimate. You pulled the number out of your arse. Pixel scaling is much more reliable than numbers pulled out of your arse.

Cinera

Look, if the entirety of your argument is: "I DON'T BELIEVE THIS!!!", then you can't be surprised if others don't find it convincing. Sheer disbelief (no matter how strong) isn't a counterargument.

Cinera

@Mr. Anderson, @critical mindset.

C

critical mindset

The physics behind it Cinera is that that water bullet had enough power to pierce many kilometres of bedrock, so it passing by a fishman, that doesn’t account to it losing over half of its momentum, that’s an insane and scientifically autistic way of seeing it and a disqualification right there. You have to estimate the depth of total bedrock it has traversed over that area, but then you don’t know the time

C

critical mindset

Pixel scaling + retards = retard estimate. Where do you find these geniuses? And why are you so defensive lol, I’m just saying that 2769 looks very suspicious looking at some manga panels and drawing comparisons with the surrounding buildings, again not saying I have it all figured out, but your guys have a pretty bad track record so far, and you attack me? Wtf is wrong with you? Are you this way in real life too?

Cinera

@critical mindset how did I attack you?
:choppawhat:

I said your argument is bad, I never attacked your person directly.

Cinera

The watershot never passed through kilometres of bedrock, the vast majority of the distance it traversed was empty air. It might have pierced through a 100 metres, but even that isn't clear.

Mr. Anderson

I was never a fan of the pixel shit to begin with.

That combined with Oda's inconsistent size scaling just makes me not take that shit seriously especially with OP calcs

Cinera

@Mr. Anderson that's fair enough. Pica's golem is one of the more reliable structures size wise. He should be over a kilometre tall (he made mukti story buildings look tiny on his body). If he's over a kilometre tall, then lifting up the upper half of the golem would require megatons in potential energy.

C

critical mindset

If Pica is off by more than a 1,5 km in height than you’re gonna totally skew the results when you overdimension him. Is 2769 even a reliable estimate in your view? I’m just saying it’ looks way off. I want to have a solid way of figuring out the roundabout estimates, a solid ballpark. When I point out some very basic flaws you start calling me a denier and say I’m approaching things with disbelief from the start

C

critical mindset

That’s you fucking strawmanning me. I can have my doubts without being a “denier” and you state these things like
they are “set in stone” canon facts, but I want to look into this myself without taking someone’s word for it. All I am is open to review how they went about their calc and estimates and I’m open to have my mind changed if I’m wrong. And Hody’s bullet traversed half of uninhabited FI with bedrock

comrade

https://files.otis.com/otis/de/de/contentimages/video-fallback-Burj%20Khalifa.jpg
Burj Khalifa is 800 meters in height. Now imagine Pica being twice as tall. Lol.

Mr. Anderson

I dont think 2769 is reliable number at all. He was around the same height if not slightly taller than flower hill. And just going off of visual scale Pica is obviously not that large lol

Elder Lee Hung

Seeing this battle of wank is quite awe inspiring lol. To think there still existed posters who could push @Cinera this far. @critical mindset has truly entered the pantheon of the greatest wankers in forum history.