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ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
@TheAncientCenturion Uh simple answer. Because Zoro shits on Kidd just as bad as he shits on Killer?
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Oda didn't put Kidd on the pedestal where he is close to Zoro, only fans did
HA001
HA001
Thats cause you been underestimating zoro all this time.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
Kidd has been portrayed close to Luffy.

Zoro hasn't.
HA001
HA001
People been living off the fantasy that kidd and luffy will be rivals and so will zoro and killer. Its not the case at all.
HA001
HA001
Lifting rocks isnt portyal.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
I can't wait for your wake up calls in Wano. Don't drop the manga when headcanon is broken.
Buusatan94
Buusatan94
Neither Zoro or Kid are Luffy's equal when it comes to fighting. And poor Ki nor any other supernova d never had a chance from the start anyway, Blackbeard is the only real rival for the One Piece.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Kidd has never been portrayed to be close to Luffy, what you call portrayal is simply fan hype. No statement in manga says Kidd is close to Luffy, Kidd has defeated no opponent that is even close to strongest opponent Luffy has. Those would be examples of portrayal.

Kidd has ZERO, absolutely ZERO portrayal that puts him close to Luffy.
Kejon
Kejon
@TheAncientCenturion How does he not do anything? You clearly saw him hurt Zoro, capture Law and solve the situation with Kaido being drunk and nearly destroying Okobore town. Kaido can be lucky he has someone like him on the crew.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
And Zoro has both hype and feats that put him close to Luffy.
He takes a dump on Luffy if we compare their Dressrosa feats, to the point where even if he uses Gear 4th, he would get mid/high diffed overall.

Then Oda used WCI for Luffy to catch up to Zoro only for Zoro to get power up. Now luffy got power up too and he can extreme diff Zoro but nothing less than that.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Kidd is overhyped as fuck and is at best Cracker level character which is a low diff fight for current Zoro.
HA001
HA001
Lmfao. Im still waiting to be wrong.
Youre the one constantly proven wrong on zoro. You used to say hed never fight king lmfao dont even start.
Zoros gonna be fighting king by your own accord after fighting nothing but fodders whilst luffy had 3 extreme fights to reach katas level. Proving zoro came back stronger. And when he cuts kaido im gonna love see what excuses you make then.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Supernova power scaling
Luffy 100
Zoro 99
Law 92
Kidd/X-Drake 91
Killer 90
Hawkins 89
Capone 85
Bonney 84.

It would be whack as fuck if Law and Kidd were any where near Luffy and Zoro after latter get top tiers as trainers, get blades from top tiers, learn the most advanced form of Haki there is.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
@Kejon because those aren't good feats. Zoro was restricted physically, being unable to actually dodge Hawkins' attack. Zoro likewise had 2 swords, so not full power Zoro. AND Zoro had to defend Otama and Luffy. Hawkins outwitted Law but that was short lived.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Again issue is he faced fucking Zoro. Replaced Hawkins with Cracker and Cracker would get trashed just as bad.
Now replace Zoro with Kidd and Hawkins is doing much better.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
Supernova power levels
Luffy - 150
Kidd - 120
Zoro 105
Law - 95
X Drake - 92
Urouge - 87
Hawkins - 84
Killer - 82
Bonney - 76
Capone - 50
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
WHAT?! Current Zoro can't beat Cracker less than high diff.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
You have lost your mind lmao
LANJI CUCKSMOKE
LANJI CUCKSMOKE
hawkins againts law was not as easy as it looked cause it was mostly offscreened. people act like he was low diffed when law looked just as bad as he did. its simple
he had 4 lives
lost 3 when he gave law's crew back
meaning law only had to take down one to get to his real body.
its a no brainer really.
anyone thinking hawkins is just some headliner is seriously deluded.
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