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Garp the Fist
Garp the Fist
My main memory of Prime Sir L was the Swordsman Equation, where he proved that Mihawk>Shanks using logic, rationality and fancy Latin phrases. And literally no one could argue against it.

He was banned (again) shortly afterwards because folk like Celestial were having panic attacks that were palpable through the screen as a response to it. The Oro Jackson equivalent of the burning of Ohara
Elder Lee Hung
Elder Lee Hung
@Cinera what is the Mihawk > Shanks equation? Lol
Nidai_Kitetsu
Nidai_Kitetsu
Just to be fair, Celestial was not that type to report a post or user. It was guys like Smile and Syed who were doing such things. Celestial is actually a very reputed user and one of the best theorists OJ had produced along with Beck. He is probably inspiration for famous youtube theorists like alpha2late and joyboy. The only problem was Celestial's love for Luffy used to get the better of him.
Cinera
Cinera
@Admiral Lee Hung the Mihawk > Shanks stuff was mostly a very rigorous argument that took the following form:
* Premise 1: Shanks is indubitably a swordsman.
* Premise 2: Mihawk is incontrovertibly the strongest swordsman.
* Conclusion: Mihawk is stronger than Shanks.
Cinera
Cinera
I took pains to explain both the two premises and the conclusion in exaggerated detail, leaving no room to doubt the validity of the syllogism.
Gol D. Roger
Gol D. Roger
@Nidai_Kitetsu Celestial never gave me trouble lmao. He and Hero Sanji almost always had like 10 other Sanji/Luffy fans backing them up against me. I still held up without backing down from the arguments. Before joing OJ, never had I imagined that I'd be a pro-Zoro advocate lmao. Our arguments were so intense that they lasted weeks.
Gol D. Roger
Gol D. Roger
I must admit things were pretty hard for me before @Bogard joined the forum. Bogard and I were a good team back then, we were so good that even anti-Zoro OJ staff had to honor us with the famous Young Dragon medals.
HeroesNZ
HeroesNZ
Man debating with Celestial gave rise to some of the funniest debates of all time - I'll never forget when he got banned 😂😂 Legendary moments
Gol D. Roger
Gol D. Roger
His "You and your Z-boys" excuses whenever he lost a debate were my favorite.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Zoro = Sanji Zoro >= Sanji was a majority opinion on OJ. Then I came along and in a span of few weeks changed the paradigm. Zoro mid diffs Sanji soon became a common response to majority of Zoro/Sanji thread.
Gol D. Roger
Gol D. Roger
HeroesNZ
HeroesNZ
"Z-boys" as Celestial would call us, were the underdogs back then lmao. We were outnumbered like 3:1 most of the time but it made debating way more fun cos they were so easily triggered

I'll never forget when Sir L made a thread about the Monster Trio except when you entered the thread you'd see that he'd replaced Sanji with Law 😂😂😂 Needless to say that thread did not live long but shit was hilarious
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Yeah but even when yall were active when I was lurking ***** were legit scared of straight of posting "Zoro mid diffs Sanji" or "Luffy >= Zoro".
@ZenZu was the only one openly saying that shit
ZenZu
ZenZu
Its not that I was the only one, its just I was more aggressive in my approach, when I joined OJ the arena was pretty soft with no one seriously holding stupid posts accountable, needless to say I didn't hold back with my words. Literally my first encounter with Celestial I already had him triggered, by my 2nd encounter he was receiving infractions and thread bans.
ZenZu
ZenZu
I think the culture of the arena started to shift, but it was bound to happen as the forum grew, most of those users weren't used to a cut throat arena section, Bogard and Roger coming from the cancerous Narutobase were the rare exceptions at the time of me joining.
HeroesNZ
HeroesNZ
Overall we definitely invaded that Arena section and by the end it was just us cos a lot of people got scared away lmfao.

It was more fun when we were the underdogs tbh. I'mma ask the Sanji fans if they wanna draft me into their team for a small price, lord knows they need all the help they can get around here 💀
Cinera
Cinera
@HeroesNZ would you really? Raid Suit Sanji's biggest feat is failing to defeat a mid tier. At this point I'm betting Sanji wouldn't solo Queen.
Cinera
Cinera
If Oda wanted us to take Sanji legitimately as a fighter, he would have low diffed the weakest Tobi Roppo. He specifically did not, and didn't appear to significantly damage him.
Cinera
Cinera
Unless it's revealed that Page One was in fact KOed by RS Sanji, he gets placed in the low high tier. It's not yet clear that he can beat DR Santoryu Zoro (let alone all out current Zoro).
Bogard
Bogard
Debating for the underdog is much more fun whether Zoro, Sanji, admirals, yonko. That's why i never liked debating with the majority
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