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Cinera
The Cracker advocates failed to prevent convincing arguments for Cracker's victory beyond wild fanfictions (Cracker creates a giant mountain sized biscuit soldier/Cracker creates a 100 biscuit soldiers) and muh power levels (but, but Cracker is a top Yonkou Commader level fighter!).
Cinera
The Pica advocates on the other hand did present plausible scenarios through which Pica wins, and convincingly argued that at the very Cracker has no prayer of defeating Pica.
Cinera
If any of the Cracker advocates are confident enough in their claim, I would like to organise a debate between them and @Topi Jerami or @ShishioIsBack. Let the strength of the arguments speak for themselves.
:cheers:
:cheers:
Cinera
@Buusatan94 would you be willing?
Cinera
Unfortunately, like every single opponent Zoro has defeated postskip, Pica gets relegated to being just fodder and is severely underrated outside the Zoro fandom.
Sure, @nik87 and @ShishioIsBack's claims that Pica is a YC 3 - YC 2 level character also overrate him, but claiming that Pica is a low veteran level fighter is even worse.
Sure, @nik87 and @ShishioIsBack's claims that Pica is a YC 3 - YC 2 level character also overrate him, but claiming that Pica is a low veteran level fighter is even worse.
Buusatan94
Topi Jerami and Shishio ? Are you kidding ? There will never be a rationnal debate about Pica with them.
Cinera
Even without his golem it is doubtful that the likes of Oven can defeat Pica given that he tanked a 1080 Pound Canon (significantly stronger than a Grizzly Magnum, much more lethal on top and way more powerful than anything Oven can dish out) and that was without haki reinforcement.
With his Full Body Haki, Pica more likely than not no sells Oven's entire offense.
With his Full Body Haki, Pica more likely than not no sells Oven's entire offense.
Buusatan94
I did not miss the Pica wank, this was already annoying enough back on OJ.
Cinera
Stalling and holding off a two sword Zoro in CQC is also much better than anything Oven has done. A casual two sword Zoro would molest Oven, so not getting molested is much better than Oven can do.
Cinera
@Buusatan94 you guys differ very strongly on your opinions on Pica, and that's fine. If you're confident enough in your position that Pica can be beaten by Cracker then argue for it. I can find neutral enough judges (I would of course exempt myself) to judge the debate.
nik87
Change Pica's name into Douglass Bullet and everyone will call him top tier...
Change his position from Doffy's executive to Yonko's commander and nobody will doubt his power...
It is limited to Dressrosa's environment but doesnt change the fact that there he is very powerful and unstoppable for most of people.
Change his position from Doffy's executive to Yonko's commander and nobody will doubt his power...
It is limited to Dressrosa's environment but doesnt change the fact that there he is very powerful and unstoppable for most of people.
Cinera
At the very least in the Pica vs Cracker thread, only one side actually presented good arguments for their case.
I have already accepted that anyone Zoro defeats would be treated like fodder though, so that's fine. Folks are just too committed to their personal head canons and tier lists.
I have already accepted that anyone Zoro defeats would be treated like fodder though, so that's fine. Folks are just too committed to their personal head canons and tier lists.
RayanOO
Pica is a pain to deal with but he won't beat Cracker within a year : everywhere outside of Dressrosa he is eaten alive, in DR he is way too slow in golem and too weak is he comes closer.
Topi Jerami
Forget the debate. I would rather sleeping or read another manga / manhwa than debating powerlevel in One Piss. The creator clearly doesn't bother about consistent powerlevel anymore, why should we still care?
Cinera
@RayanOO not all of Pica's attacks are slow. It's only really his massive golem punches that are very slow. He also managed to land blows on Zoro during their fight, so I'm not convinced he would never land hits on Cracker.
The main problem is that he only needs one golem hit to eventually land, while Cracker doesn't have any real prayer of beating him. So I think more often than not, Pica would win.
The main problem is that he only needs one golem hit to eventually land, while Cracker doesn't have any real prayer of beating him. So I think more often than not, Pica would win.
nik87
Pica will just create one spike under Cracker and biscuit boy is dead...
Also, his biscuits cannot tank a town falling on them, not even close.
Also, his biscuits cannot tank a town falling on them, not even close.
Cinera
@RayanOO Pica can instantaneously travel in his stone and he reshaped the landscape of Dressrosa. While within his stone, he isn't really exposed. There was a reason Zoro wasn't able to really hurt him until he separated him from the ground. The only attack that Zoro successfully landed on Pica before ISDS was his 1080 Pound Canon that cleaved cleanly through his golem.