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ZenZu

Well the thing is I have Akainu >= Kizaru. They're on the same level. If Akainu performs well it will only mean Kizaru wasn't even close to going all out this arc like we thought. The only way I would consider Akainu and Kizaru not on the same level is if both went all out. But the fact that a half assed Kizaru bodied G4 and outlasted G5 means it checks out if Oda decides to showcase full strength.

ZenZu

He might be saving a full strength Admiral showcase with Akainu, which is why he is hiding Kizaru and Aokiji still with nerfs. He probably doesn't want to spoil the Akainu fight. Oda thinks he's slick but he's too predictable with how he writes.

Nidai_Kitetsu

Okay dude 😂 Whatever makes you happy

ZenZu

No argument presented, all my reasoning checks out. Until Kizaru or Kuzan are allowed to go all out, Akainu will be the barometer for the C3 🤷

Nidai_Kitetsu

I am going easy on you bozo - this is like your Mavs in 6 type casual take 😂

ZenZu

If you believe Kizaru or Kuzan have gone all out, I feel sorry for you, you are so deep into agendapiece you've lost your mind.

ZenZu

Fuck Lucka btw, he let me down being a whiny little bitch, lowkey it's the same situation with Kizaru lmfaooo, both still proved to be the best but their whininess cost them.

Nidai_Kitetsu

I thought Kizaru surpassed your expectations - why do you think he has more to show?

ZenZu

You're confusing two different things. He surpassed my expectations in the powerscale precisely because he has a lot more to show and he's already proven he can more than hang with Luffy. I'm factoring in Kizaru half assing, it's in my very first post. He didn't surpass my expectations for what I expected him to show ability wise, he's been wack af, that's Odas fault though not cause he was proven to be weak.

Nidai_Kitetsu

You think Luka will be back to the NBA finals anytime soon?

ZenZu

Absolutely, he's too good not to. He made the WCF in 2022 when he was 23, now he made the NBA finals at 25. Next step is to actually win the ring.

ZenZu

Unfortunate his attitude is what led to the Mavs downfall, his defense has been ass and he was foul baiting and crying the entire game. Series should be 2-1 rn but he let his team down.

Nidai_Kitetsu

Saw a comment "Luka brought all star game level defense to the finals"

RayanOO

@Nidai_Kitetsu loool yeah I’ll die on this hill
He will show COC soon ! Shame on you for not having the faith

grey matter

@ZenZu
Do you think Luffy used advanced Conqueror's in G4? If he didn't, would the outcome be different?
To me, it's clear that Kizaru definitively outclassed snakeman in CQC, however if he didn't use advanced Conqueror's, would using it make those blocks harder/impossible ?

ZenZu

@grey matter That's a valid question, idk why he wouldn't, because G5 is much more taxing than advCoC. Both Luffy and Kizaru looked like they were holding something back but Kizaru obviously moreso since Luffy went through all his gears and used advCoC atleast 1-2 times.

ZenZu

I think deep down I still believe a full power G4 Luffy can put up a fight but Oda just was not into drawing that fight period, or maybe that's just me coping in order for my powerscale to make sense.

Nidai_Kitetsu

@ZenZu Admit it, Oda just nerfed Luffy - Zoro here

ZenZu

@grey matter Another reason with the assumption that he didn't use CoC during Snakeman is that he didn't want to waste his haki on attacks that weren't landing clean, first he needed to make sure he can even land (because G4 already uses up too much haki, and G5 is already a massive drain). That opening kick very likely could have been CoC and it just didn't break through Kizaru's guard.

ZenZu

@Nidai_Kitetsu You can add Sanji in there too. Even if true, Kizaru was nerfed more than Luffy, so that's why it more than balances out. The takeaway atm barring any updates is Kizaru can stall out G5.