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I like the idea but am also fairly certain the safe havens from the flood won't be limited to the ones the WG has planned in their final designs. There is this bit in Vegapunk's speech where he strongly encourages and expresses his belief in mankind's ability to stand up for themselves when the...

I hear you. If anything Go's endurance should have him clear of these character's tier. It's still hard to picture him "low diffing" Izo taking everything into account.

Kizaru was devastated after killing Punk. We can see him breathing heavily in the panels following the finishing blow. He also didn't get caught in a 1v2 context either since he was about to chase Sanji and wasn't paying attention to Luffy. When actually facing off against G5, Kizaru was...

Nah, Kizaru's the real deal.

I can see where you're coming from with the endurance point at least. His feats in that aspect are legit with nothing in the manga explicitly putting them into question. Think what we disagree on is the Izo situation and the implications of that is why we see different scenes as outliers. I...

It really shouldn't have been difficult for someone that fast. Makes one wonder why Oda wrote him simply giving up as if his fate was sealed.

So from what I understand, you interpretation of things is that Mr. Go's performance against Izo and his performance against Drake and Apoo are both outliers that should be ignored entirely while the one time he was significantly faster than G4 Luffy and Drunken Thunder Bagua Hybrid Kaido is the...

I have no idea. In fact, even Sukiyaki himself states that he has no idea which further shows how facts and figures from the void century should by all means be unknown. Ryuma doesn't fit the bill.

Hmmm nah, I don't buy it. It would be quite the massive plot hole for a figure from the void century to be this widely well known and for his corpse and sword to apparently be the only pieces of lost history worth saving and remembering.

Oden's dad literally explains that old Wano sunk 800 years ago...

You claimed that he was from old Wano which existed only until the void century. Or are you saying that he is from before the void century?

But surely they would know about the events of the void century then since Ryuma's exploits would have happened at the same time? Doesn't really make sense to me that they would recognise Ryuma's legend while completely forgetting the Wano he lived in and protected.

That does not really check out, does it? The events of the void century are unknown to the people of Wano (Oden's dad only knew about the stuff recorded on the Poneglyph he had access to) while Ryuma's exploits are fairly well documented to the point where his lineage can be accurately traced...

Think it's pretty clear that he fought them by himself at least for a little while. The scene of the face off straight up ends with Akainu going "discussion is pointless" and launching a huge attack. The panel that immediately follows has the marines reporting that Akainu has engaged the...

Note that Apoo was also doing crowd control while fending off Zoro and Drake. The entire live floor was going after him. :myman:

Went back to check the chapters and injured Izo 1v2ed them for the entire last stretch of BM vs Kid and Law on top of other events.

HIM for a reason.

Injured Izou was able to take on Mr. Go (stronger than Lucci) backed up by Maha 1v2 for a respectable length of time and straight up outpace Mr. Go to put him on the floor. The Whitebeard pirates were truly in a class of their own. :finally:

I think there is an interesting dynamic being set up here between Imu and the Gorosei. Imu most likely knows Emeth personally and has had to deal with him alongside Joyboy back in the void century war. It's normal for him to be vary of anything and anyone directly linked to those events let...