But it’s random to have a misinformed statement just presented with no correction then. Like Oda could’ve had a character or something correct this right?
The Viz has a celestial dragon say “You’re just more Buccaneers” to the Davy clan
but then again announcer who is saying that Kuma is a buccaneer doesn’t point out that the Davys are buccaneers. Though the announcer makes it seem like Kuma is somehow known among the Celestial dragons, like they...
Kaido is stronger now than 20 years ago.
If you have a problem with what Gaban said then that’s on you
the benchmarks given for Zoro to even reach Oden level are that he can’t be dying from KoH and Favan already said that not knowing you have CoC automaticallly makes it weaker. Luffy says Zoro...
What? Did you not see Luffy running away the entire time and needing to be saved and given food multiple times to keep fighting in g5 and him failing to damage any of them
Are you implying that forging a black blade is a comparable feat to fighting off the WG?
so you think Mihawk can do this too? You think Mihawk can one vs an entire onslaught of the WG from holy knights to Gorosei to thousands of soldiers?
There is a direct statement From Gyukimaru that Ryuma...
Most of the points he made have already been discussed among fans
the not discussed aspect is the competition point. One piece is actually directly propped up by Shonen jump to remain number one. Maybe it’s not like out malice, maybe it’s Shonen jumpy that’s just scared to try and bet on other...
What? Luffy surpassed oden in Wano when he beat kaido of course
He does not. Oden could use AdvCoC properly, Zoro doesn’t even know he has it. Gaban’s says you have to get your CoC under control to be able to use it properly
Zoro admits Oden is above him when he says Oden uses Enma as if it...
Zoro hasn’t surpassed Oden to this day. And he’s likely not going to be anywhere near Loki
Forging black blades is no longer Ryuma’s best feat. In Wano, Forging a black blade is presented as a feat not even Oden achieved. So now Zoro forging a black blade is more an indicator that he surpassed...
Okay. If you believe Mihawk is that strong then I can’t say it’s impossible
this thread is about more than Power scaling too. Another big issue with Zoro surpassing Ryuma is that Ryuma is more of a Luffy parallel than a Zoro parallel
Oda is very clear that Luffy takes precedence over Zoro in...
Correct. Because Imu defeated Joyboy so Luffy beating Imu automatically puts Luffy above Joyboy
you need a comparable opponent for the feat to stick
Like Mihawk is strong but Ryuma is compared to Joyboy. Beating Mihawk doesn’t seem like it’s a feat that puts you on Joyboy levels. Unless you...
How though, people in OP get stronger by winning fights with strong opponents
for Zoro to get on Ryuma’s level, there has to be someone alive in OP that is so strong that you need to be Ryuma level to defeat them… and I like Mihawk as much as the next guy but there’s no indication that Mihawk...
But we know that Gorosei themselves get involved when needed and we know Imu himself can get involved when shit hits the fan
there’s a level of escalation of how much the WG would get involved if they feel like it
for example, if they thought that Pluton was in Wano, I bet the WG would go all...
Because this is the Luffy show.
even if Zoro unlocked AdvCoC at the same time as Luffy, Luffy’s AdvCoC was obviously stronger
in fact two arcs later, Zoro doesn’t even know he has AdvCoC when Luffy realized it in the exact same chapter he unlocked it
you guys don’t realize that Oda does this...
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