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  1. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    And characters can be wrong and say things that aren’t true and don’t reflect what Oda actually thinks is the correct thing there is no character in one piece where love has made them evil. In just Elbaf we are presented with two evil people, Harald and Rocks, who specifically become better...
  2. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    They do not, that’s a mistranslation
  3. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    Rayleigh isn’t talking about love. Not everything is this morally ambiguous. For example Luffy, the main character, is morally good in the “black and white” sense of this story Sommers is evil. He’s an evil psychotic sociopath. What he thinks of love isn’t what Oda does luffy is good. There’s...
  4. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    Not in one piece… You are transferring your thoughts about other manga or stories into One piece. Oda has a very specific message about what’s good and evil. You mention Elbaf having a lot of themes of love, okay. Is the re a single bad thing that’s happened in Elbaf because of love?
  5. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    Vegapunk doesn’t say it’s a “power of love”. He says the reason Kuma is still going is BECAUSE OF LOVE. As in its love that has made him unlock the buccaneer power. Get it? The reason for Kuma unlocking the Buccaneer power is not the same as it literally being the Buccaneer power. Teach could...
  6. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    What about when Sanji was fighting S-Shark. That was the first time he started talking about the “power of love”. People thought it was a joke at first and then the Kizaru scene happened We already had this argument, Teach isn’t fighting with the power of love. The fuck
  7. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    In the Japanese the word “power” isn’t used. My guy, don’t start making shit up just for the sake.
  8. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    No the correct translation doesn’t have “power”… The correct translation just says Kuma survived his mind being wiped “Because of love”… the word power isn’t used I already explained that what Vegapunk said has nothing to do with Sanji. It’s a mistranslation
  9. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    A connection no one has made until now; Teach not sleeping is the same ability as Kuma walking around with his brain shut off. of course it’s the same ability. It’s your body doing things when your mind shouldn’t allow it. Kuma is brain dead yet his buccaneer power lets him walk around and give...
  10. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    And what’s that got to do with Kuma and the rest of buccaneers who have whatever special power
  11. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    And Luffy and strawhats were escaping so why was Katakuri fighting them? Is this for the love of his family that he kept beating up Luffy for 12 hours? Luffy was going to harm his family if he didn’t beat him up for 12 hours? yeah so I’m not going to go with “There’s an entire race of Nikas who...
  12. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    He didn’t fight for love. The strawhats were already running away. Which of his loved ones was in danger when the strawhats were running away. The only person the strawhats were actively trying to harm when Luffy vs Katakuri was happening was Big mom herself with the Cake… The character Katakuri...
  13. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    Katakuri was motivated by shame. That was his whole thing. The shame around his face. His entire character arc in the fight was about shame. So you’re saying the buccaneers have Luffy’s g5 power then, is that it? They can do whatever the plot wants? Okay. I’m gonna go with something simpler...
  14. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    But Oda has a specific message about love. The bad guy cannot be motivated and empowered by the same thing as the good guy. That make love itself a non-factor and not worth anything if it means the same thing to both sides. To Oda, Love is a good thing, so he won’t have the bad guys also...
  15. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    The translations around this are wonky. I’ve seen a translation that just says Vegapunk says “Because of love”. The word “Power” is not used in that scene. In fact the translation was from the original raws again, it’s highly unlikely that Teach is using something called “the power of love”...
  16. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    Vegapunk confirmed that Buccaneers have a special superpower. And then we are told that the Davy clan is special even among the rest of the D clan. And then they are all Buccaneers. The same Buccaneers that Vegapunk was saying have a special superpower This should be very interesting for at...
  17. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    Okay let’s assume the Teach’s two DF thing is a buccaneer trait that means Kuma must have it too and the main unique attribute Kuma was stated to have was his ability to somehow remain conscious yet his mind had been erased Let assume these two situations are related. Teach being able to eat...
  18. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    WG says wipe out Ds and Buccaneers and Daveys Blackbeard is ALL of the above and worked with the WG
  19. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    His mother is not a Davy clan. It’s the Davt clan that’s revealed to be buccaneers. The mother is not from the Davy clan
  20. ImmaIvanoM

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

    Kuma says Zoro has more endurance than he does
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