AFAIK the entire logic is he is a Monkey D. in his prime
Prime Garp was = Roger
Prime Luffy will probably be the strongest ever
And Dragon is obviously going to be the main fighting force of a worldwide organization that seeks to topple the current world order
So I understand the rationale
Hisoka is one of the few characters in HxH who's narrative construction is as one who drives the plot as opposed to one who reacts to the plot, and Togashi does such a great job characterizing him in that manner, such a fantastic character.
3rd Kazekage>4th Kazekage>=Edo 4th Kazekage who is able to fight War Arc Gaara
And Sasori>>3rd Kazekage so even if you want to say that War Arc Gaara might be somewhat stronger than the 3rd Kazekage, Sasori is still stronger
I mean in the panel you just sent it establishes him as being significantly stronger than someone like Rasa who was capable of singlehandedly containing a bijuu and the elders literally couldn't believe he could've been killed. Like I said Rasa is also able to fight comparably against War Arc...
@TheAncientCenturion Even if I steelman the Madara example and say he was stronger than his alive version, we know Kabuto specifically went out of his way to give him special treatment, and given what Tobirama says we can then conclude that every other "normal" Edo reincarnation would not be at...
I wont deny that Kishi could've done a better job of emphasizing my interpretation but really I fail to see any other in-universe explanation for the discrepancies in Ororchimarus Edo Tensei in part 1 vs part 2, and I try to find in-universe explanations when available and I think this one fits...
Sasori is at bare minimum much stronger than the Third Kazekage who is stronger than people like War Arc Gaara and at the most generous interpretations is a Hanzo+ level fighter who is stronger than the Sannin
And he has insane hax, his poison is one shot to almost every fighter in the series...
I mean I don't think it was by that large of a margin anyway but also almost all the Edo are in a literal puppet-like state anyway with very little ability to think/act for themselves, which is why Tobirama flexing after making his comment on him being near his original power is impactful
That gets immediately questioned by Madara himself which makes sense since Kabuto should have zero reference for how strong Madara actually was when alive, and then gets directly contradicted by Hashiramas statement about him regaining his past strength after Rinne Tensei, and nobody knows...
I mean maybe if we never saw him do anything on screen sure but we literally see he's much closer to characters on Kakashi and Asuma's level than characters on even Pain's level, much less Hashirama
The guy is just not really impressive
No it is rather clear, especially considering Deidara's immense pride and hatred of inferiority, and we have a very good direct comparison for The Third Kazekage being stronger than Rasa, who was comparable to War Arc Gaara, who should be considerably stronger than his start of series self who...
I mean we also have Hashirama saying that Madara once being revived through the Rinne Tensei is "regaining his past strength" which to me is another indication that the Edo Tensei's weren't quite on the same level as their alive counterparts, just much closer than they were compared to...
I've always been under the impression that when Orochimaru absorbed Kabuto's memories he also gained knowledge of Kabuto's perfected Edo Tensei and used that version to revive the Hokage
Sasori's feats are like nonexistent because of the unique circumstances in the main fight he has but we can get a good idea of how strong he is solely based off the fact of how strong the Third Kazekage is and the fact that he should be stronger than prime Chiyo who was able to fight against...
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