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I mean part of that is just Orochimaru being Orochimaru but another part of it is the fact that despite Edo Tensei only reviving the dead at *close* to their original strength, for Hiruzen it actually made him much stronger than we saw in part 1 because he had no stamina/chakra problems and it...

To me it's almost more impressive in a way that Kishimoto was writing a lot of Naruto relatively on the fly and he was still able to create so many compelling plot twists and callbacks 1755030289 Itachi is still far stronger than Jiraiya even in sage mode anyway

Kakuzu isn't much higher than a high jonin level fighter, he's really quite unimpressive all things considered

When Deidara is monologuing about the Three tails lacking a jinchuuriki host, and then including 2 panels of Obito in what appears to be silent retrospection and Kishi going out of his way to have Deidara comment on "Tobi's" stark change in demeanour

Using that particular example isn't a good one because Jiraiya was drunk which considerably nerfed him and Tsunade's resolve had been shattered up until that point But yes it is well established that Itachi is far above Sannin level

Side not but I love this panel so much it's such underrated and overlooked foreshadowing for the Rin flashback

Kisame's power level fluctuates quite a lot. I agree that while in base he's not as strong as people like Sasori, depending on how much chakra he can absorb with Samehada he can get disgustingly strong like we saw against Naruto and Guy I also don't have a high opinion of Kakuzu's strength...

Aside from possibly Kisame, I'd agree

Sasori is the most underrated Akatsuki in strength by the way

Begs the question of who the other admirals were and who the fuck was the fleet admiral since apparently it’s not kong

Oda could easily write an interaction between the two fruits functioning similarly to Aces and Akainus fruits for literally either being stronger than the other it’s definitely too vague to make definitive claims on IMO

I’ve been good bro, took a break from OP for about a year caught up in the past few weeks Crazy to think Gojo vs Sukuna ending is coming up on its 2 year anniversary already, hope you’ve been well

Nah I wasn’t even really talking about the abilities strengths themselves I was moreso asking to see if I had the real world physics stuff wrong or not I probably should’ve clarified better

Again I may be out of my depth here but are “curves/folds” in space time not directly caused by the intense gravity of black holes? Of course I’m not going to say Fuji has that lev of gravity but I genuinely thought that’s how it worked no?

yeah but my point is that if something like photons which are literally massless and weightless are affected by gravity, then why wouldn’t other weightless objects be. Of course the gravity would have to be absurdly strong but still

maybe I’m out of my depth here but does gravity not literally affect light, which is intrinsically massless and weightless?

I'd guess the one with greater mastery of their devil fruit would overpower the other's

One that I don't see talked about a lot but is legitimately one of the best foreshadowed and well executed twists in manga to me is Sukuna taking over Megumi's body Baku and Hal's backstory in Usogui is also nigh-perfect

Child left behind

Anyone who wants to be sole king of the entire world is evil