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And yet, plenty of people are defending this and saying “Wooow!! That makes so much sense!!” without a hint of sarcasm in their post. Is Oda implying that Oden never encountered deceit his whole entire life? Even on the Grand Line?

Chapter 971: The Boiler Pot This is the final chapter of the flashback. Momonosuke and Kaido have their first confrontation in this chapter. "Your father is a foolish lord.... But...." Oden's only regret is not being able to show the people of Wano the beautiful world. All of the Azakaya...

This is severely underappreciated.

Thank you. This is what separates One Piece from all of it's contemporaries.

It is amazing that you guys literally expected the main villain of this arc to fight fair against someone. I would be surprised if Kaido/Orochi didn't plan something underhanded to defeat Oden. Plus: We've known since Chapter 920 that something underhanded took place, now we know what it was.

*Takes a deep breath* Oden WAS boiled in a boiling iron pot!!!!!! I thought that was a translation error?

Kaido is not and has never been portrayed as a person who values a fair fight. He is a pirate, not to mention that he is literally the personification of barbarism.

Wow, thanks Captain Obvious. Is it true that I can also save on vacations with Hotel.com?

Sees "vs" in the title.... Well. There's clearly going to be lots of constructive and meaningful discussion in this thread. Absolutely no incoherent shit storms about characters who are absolutely irrelevant to the current story. Totally.

a Your internet search history has no place on this forum, sir.

He's not, he's the Witching Hour Boy. Obviously.

That was years before all of this took place... I doubt the old man and woman were aboard that ship for a variety reasons, one being chronology.

I can't wait until the climax of the Fire Festival when we get to Kaido's flashback and see his perspective of the invasion of Wano, it's already giving me goosebumps. I think there's going to be a lot of inverses between Oden and Kaido.

Food for thought: Both Bartolomeo and Mr. 2 are from the East Blue. That would indicate that both the Bari Bari no mi and the Mane Mane no mi somehow ended up in the East Blue of all places. What could that mean?

Because Rayleigh’s right hand was busy with Shakky

Me, slitting my own throat at the reality of hearing “Luffy-samaaaaaa” approximately 989 times during the final war arc

And wedding cake.

And technically he raised all 5 of them.

Shanks: You all know I hate doing this... It goes against my entire moral code to act as an informant against the courageous men and women who brave the seas in search of adventure— Gorosei: Your cheeseburger has arrived Shanks: Is there ketchup in the bag?

Dragon: .... You know what.....